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the more aero you are the faster you go. it's a proven fact.
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I'm willing to bet that the texture of your bar tape can change your drag as much as the bar top shape.
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Wait so that's NOT how I'm supposed to do it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Dancing banana for math pedantry!
(Sorry; math teacher self-sarcasm here.) |
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My point was the a very textured tape on the full bar may increase/decrease drag a fair amount compared just the drag of the top section. They measured 1.4 watts by adding cork to the top section. A different tape might not have added nearly as much, and using such a tape on the full bar may of decreased drag even more. So I don't think it's crazy to say that the most aerodynamic tape over the whole bar could save close to 4 watts compared to a least aero tape. Aerodynamics is often a surprising mixture of gross shape and fine details. Texture, spoke shape, where external cables are, sock texture all have an impact. |
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-Fit-does the bike fit you? -Fitness-are you 'fit' -Fat-lack thereof on you -Finesse-riding, racing, training smart IMHO, of course.
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Of those, I'd self assess and say Bike fit. Did it myself but it feels right. I've never paid for a proper fitting but our would prob be a good idea. Fitness. Def want more fitness. I have a plan to start winter strength work this week already. I want my CrossFit endurance back. Fat. Batting .1000 there. I'm at my race weight and feel awesome. Wife and I are 4 months into a vegan diet and I've not seen any fitness regression in that time. Finesse. Could always be better. Grew up on MTBs, so I feel comfortable with my skills. But CX has been teaching me to ride "lighter" and be more aware of the terrain. As for road riding and racing, tight groups don't bother me, probably because I haven't crashed yet. All IMHO. Of course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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In comparison, an aero front wheel saves you about 4W at 25mph over a semi-aero front wheel (say Flo 30, Zipp 30, or Kinlin XR-31). The rear saves you maybe 2 at that speed, if not less. Overall, wheelset saves you a bit more than a handlebar, but at nearly 4-5x the cost. Going from two piece to a one-piece stem-bar combo will save you more, as would routing everything internally (Madone 9-series). The bars are definitely better bang for the buck than the wheels are eta: two threads on this previously: https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ht=wheels+bars and https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ht=wheels+bars |
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I'm going to be the one to say it's all about the motor at a cat 4 level. I'm not trying to be a bad guy, but in a cat 4 crit or RR, the bike is almost the last thing to worry about. Do you have a coach? If not, a good, local to you coach will make you faster on 2 wheels than any purchase except maybe a Harley.
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Nearly every race I do is close at the line and at 48, I’m happy to get ack to my prior season’s ftp each year. A 5w gain from bars would be kinda notable, to be honest and getting a handful more out of a good front wheel would add up to something helpful.
But, I have a Madone 9 that is driving me insane. I just can’t get it to fit right, even after buying a second bar-stem and having several pro fits. Measurements look right but I get a terrible shoulder and neck ache really fast. In fact, I’m futzing with it again in the garage this afternoon. An adjustable bar might help and I would be happy to give up a few watts to be released from this unending fitting saga. |
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Talk about grass being greener on the other side
I'd love to have a bike with full integration. The Madone looks so slick: literally not a centimeter of cable sees the wind in front of the bottom bracket. But what you mentioned is a very legit concern, and all that sleekness does no good when it doesn't fit right. Hopefully more manufacturers follow suit and make something similar. |
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