Tuesday Tool Thread - Page 17

tuscanyswe · #**241** 02-21-2018, 10:24 AM

They were adjustable wrenches.

But when i googled the maker (Turny Japan) the first thing that came up was an old oil filter spanner which pretty much looks the same.

aosty · #**242** 03-20-2018, 10:50 PM

I had the dual Shimano/Campy version but haven’t had a Campy bike in a long time... this Shimano/Shimano version needs less guesswork and fumbling and the nub on one side has nice stability with 12mm thru axle hubs.

Mark McM · #**243** 03-21-2018, 11:22 AM

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I had the dual Shimano/Campy version but haven’t had a Campy bike in a long time... this Shimano/Shimano version needs less guesswork and fumbling and the nub on one side has nice stability with 12mm thru axle hubs.

A Shimano/Campy version could be a bit confusing, unless it is well labeled. As it happens, many Shimano lock ring tools can actually fit a Campagnolo lockring, although it is a bit tight on the diameter, while also being a bit sloppy between the splines. (While it is not ideal to use a mis-matched lockring tool, it will actually sometimes work in a pinch.)

AngryScientist · #**244** 03-21-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark McM

A Shimano/Campy version could be a bit confusing, unless it is well labeled. As it happens, many Shimano lock ring tools can actually fit a Campagnolo lockring, although it is a bit tight on the diameter, while also being a bit sloppy between the splines. (While it is not ideal to use a mis-matched lockring tool, it will actually sometimes work in a pinch.)

it's not confusing in the least bit. i own the abbey dual tool, and there is no chance to make a mistake, and i regularly use it for both lockrings.

chiasticon · #**245** 03-21-2018, 11:39 AM

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it's not confusing in the least bit. i own the abbey dual tool, and there is no chance to make a mistake, and i regularly use it for both lockrings.

so do I. and 100% of the time it's "this side is the one I want", try it, then flip it over and loosen the lockring.

kinda like every time I've ever stuck a USB cable end into a computer.

AngryScientist · #**246** 03-21-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chiasticon

so do I. and 100% of the time it's "this side is the one I want", try it, then flip it over and loosen the lockring.

kinda like every time I've ever stuck a USB cable end into a computer.

haha, it's true. i've actually considered painting one side. but then i would forget which side i painted.

aosty · #**247** 03-21-2018, 11:45 AM

Yup, pretty much!
It's not confusing... just a bit fumble-y.

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so do I. and 100% of the time it's "this side is the one I want", try it, then flip it over and loosen the lockring.

kinda like every time I've ever stuck a USB cable end into a computer.

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

haha, it's true. i've actually considered painting one side. but then i would forget which side i painted.

Mark McM · #**248** 03-21-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

it's not confusing in the least bit. i own the abbey dual tool, and there is no chance to make a mistake, and i regularly use it for both lockrings.

Perhaps the Abbey tool is made with tighter tolerances. My Park Shimano lockring tools fits both my Shimano lockrings and my Campagnolo lockrings (although it fits better with the Shimano lockrings), and I have used it successfully on Campagnolo lockrings.

AngryScientist · #**249** 03-21-2018, 12:15 PM

the abbey tool is very high quality.

looking at the two, it sure doesnt look look like that should be possible, but i guess the park tool might be a little sloppier... (not doubting your experience, just thinking aloud)

Mark McM · #**250** 03-21-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

the abbey tool is very high quality.

looking at the two, it sure doesnt look look like that should be possible, but i guess the park tool might be a little sloppier... (not doubting your experience, just thinking aloud)

Notice that the Shimano and Campagnolo sides have the same number of splines (and in the same orientations). The Shimano splines are narrower, so they'll fit into the Campagnolo lockring grooves (while the wider Campagnolo splines won't fit into Shimano lockring grooves). The other difference is that the Shimano tool is just slightly larger in diameter the Campagnolo tool, so it may be too large in diameter to fit into a Campagnolo lockring. But if the Shimano side was just little smaller in diameter, it could just fit into a Campagnolo lockring (while still working perfectly fine with a Shimano lockring). This is the case with the Park tool I have.

FriarQuade · #**251** 03-21-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark McM

Notice that the Shimano and Campagnolo sides have the same number of splines (and in the same orientations). The Shimano splines are narrower, so they'll fit into the Campagnolo lockring grooves (while the wider Campagnolo splines won't fit into Shimano lockring grooves). The other difference is that the Shimano tool is just slightly larger in diameter the Campagnolo tool, so it may be too large in diameter to fit into a Campagnolo lockring. But if the Shimano side was just little smaller in diameter, it could just fit into a Campagnolo lockring (while still working perfectly fine with a Shimano lockring). This is the case with the Park tool I have.

That photo is a tool of the very first batch of Crombie tools I made. The current tools have a longer S-Group side to work better with a Hyper Handle or comparable tool. The Campagnolo side is also tapered to take advantage of the different depths of lockring splines Campagnolo has made over the years for some reason I can't get an answer to.

Your suggestion of using the WRONG tool for the job is possible with some tools but it doesn't work with ours. We take advantage of all the room the lockrings offer and you're not squeezing something in there unless it's supposed to fit. Furthermore encouraging this kind of practice is bmx level hacker kind of methods. Good to know it'll work in a super pinch but not something to do in practice.

kppolich · #**252** 04-16-2018, 06:56 PM

Ahead of tomorrow's thread- a shout out to Park Tool, specifically Marc!

Repaired my busted torque wrench, calibrated, and shipped it back in a day!

aosty · #**253** 04-16-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kppolich

Ahead of tomorrow's thread- a shout out to Park Tool, specifically Marc!

Repaired my busted torque wrench, calibrated, and shipped it back in a day!

Phew... nice!

And thanks for giving the thread a nudge.

rousseau · #**254** 04-16-2018, 09:30 PM

Does this count?

Finally got around to putting some pegboard up around my work table, and thought I'd make myself a nifty little board for my hex wrenches.

Nothing fancy, just a bare piece of wood with holes drilled into it and mounted with L screws.

Though I did plane the edges. I'm not an animal.

aosty · #**255** 04-17-2018, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rousseau

Does this count?

Finally got around to putting some pegboard up around my work table, and thought I'd make myself a nifty little board for my hex wrenches.

Nothing fancy, just a bare piece of wood with holes drilled into it and mounted with L screws.

Yea, it counts... nice!

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Though I did plane the edges. I'm not an animal.

Bonus points!