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Old 05-19-2018, 07:41 PM
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That's not correct. I've bought one complete bike, and a frameset that is due next week.

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Then consider yourself lucky...I talked to both guys and they reiterated that I must buy a complete bike or nothing. They said sometimes, once a year, usually at the end of the year, they'll sell a frameset only...but for now, it's a complete bike or no bike at all. I said thank you and hung up. Honest to God.
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:45 PM
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Odd. I ordered my 333fab frameset in November. I suppose that's the end of the year thing...

When I bought my Davidson way back when, I had the option of a frameset, oppted for a complete bike as it was very reasonable.

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Old 05-19-2018, 08:14 PM
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:20 PM
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How weird. Why would they do that? Plenty of potential clients must have enough bits for a full build, an extremely nice full build, in their parts bins and/or simply want a new frameset, right? I don't understand why they would want to exclude that entire market.


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Their explanation was, "We just can't profit by offering framesets alone." Ohhhhh-kayyyyyy.......
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:21 PM
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I really didn't have much to say until this post, so a few comments:
  • Lasts forever: OK
  • Best ride in the world: If you say so...
  • Shows off REAL craftsmanship and attention to detail the best: You're kidding, right?
  • It just grabs me: THAT I can accept.
  • It's awesome: Fine by me.
  • I'm nuts. I KNOW it: No argument.
Well, heck, 5 out of 6 ain't bad!
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:23 PM
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How weird. Why would they do that? Plenty of potential clients must have enough bits for a full build, an extremely nice full build, in their parts bins and/or simply want a new frameset, right? I don't understand why they would want to exclude that entire market.


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Well, if they have a wait-list they might only want to sell complete bikes to maximize their profit. Why make buyers of complete bikes wait while they build frames for folks who don't want to buy a complete bike? If that attitude seems offensive let's say they want to be sure that their frames are guaranteed fine components expertly installed so their performance is maximized.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:29 PM
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:35 PM
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:37 PM
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What's even more confusing is that I just looked at the 333 website and all I see are butted or straight-gauge, rim or disc, frame only prices. I can't find full-build, kit, fork option, etc. prices anywhere. Bizarre.
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Exactly... that's how I bought mine.

My SR group is only 14 months only, I don't need another group. In addition to the frame I bought an Enve fork, a Fiziks stem, King HS, and paint.

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Old 05-19-2018, 08:47 PM
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:06 PM
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Ti, yes. Call Tom Kellog and be done forever. Comes with a 31.6 post too, which looks best with oversize DT and TT. I hate shims.
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:15 PM
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Lionel, does Kellogg supply his own (Seven?) 31.6 ti posts with his OS ti frames?
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No he does not. Seven can probably provide one. I have a 31.6 carbon Deda post on mine. The ride is sublime.
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:21 PM
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:22 PM
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There is a cheap solution:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F153026478603

But I know you been there, done that...

Actually, yours was much nicer.
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