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Old 02-25-2021, 08:26 AM
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This thread was a lot more entertaining than yet another "I don't think disc brakes are good" thread.

Hey wait a minute, did he have discs on that TT bike?
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Old 02-25-2021, 11:53 AM
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I think it was an intentional dive, and he was just trying to draw the foul.

...oops, wrong sport.
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Old 02-25-2021, 11:57 AM
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I think it was an intentional dive, and he was just trying to draw the foul.

...oops, wrong sport.
Soccer? He is Italian.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:04 PM
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The worst thing IMO is they way no one seemed to care at all that he was down and clearly hurt.
I was wondering the same!!
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:23 PM
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I think it was an intentional dive, and he was just trying to draw the foul.

...oops, wrong sport.
Flopping? Not a good idea when riding a bike. But maybe road rash is the new black.
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Old 02-26-2021, 12:23 PM
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My vote is against the wind and lone gunman theories.

A few weeks back I had a similar accident. What strikes me as similar is initial loss of power/form and the second very violent left-to-right movement, not just a counter-steer wobble or a jack-knife.

I was standing, full sprint at the end of a ride, nothing in the road and no wind, when my foot on the down strike felt funny. I looked down, saw something flash and I was suddenly chest down on the stem/handlebars. My front wheel pushed right so I countered, but then I went from about 5 o'clock to 9 o'clock incredibly fast.

After inspection I found that my FD had failed and sent the chain to the outside. The chain was lodged between the rear wheel and the cassette, almost hung up on the tines/prams that stick up where the spokes enter the hub. That area was stripped of its paint. There was also an area where the bladed spokes were stripped of paint about 6 inches out form the hub.

From what I've been able to piece together, I lost control when I slammed down on the stem/bars, which pushed my front wheel to the right. The slack chain whipped the side of the wheel causing the abrasions 6 inches out. Then as I compensated to 12 o'clock the chain lodged stopping me cold and exaggerating my counter steer.

I'm not saying it was the exact same mech failure, but the loss of power stroke and shimmy may have caused something on the back-end to give and the violent left-to-right movement. The winds appear to be headwinds as evidenced by the flag at the top of the finish line blowing toward the rider.

So, I vote for the 1st and 2nd gunman...and I'm a klutz which contributed to my poor showing.
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Old 02-26-2021, 12:26 PM
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Sounds plausible.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:17 PM
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Makes sense as a possible cause.

I've had a similar failure without crashing, but I wasn't on aero bars and it still scared the living daylights out of me. I was actually on gravel and maybe doing 20mph, I was moving pretty decent, and the chain came off the chainring on the driveside downstrike. I was on the hoods, and I "fell" down but didn't hit the bars due to the more upright position.

Wicked scary. In my case it was time to replace the rings.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:28 PM
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It appears there was some sort of drivetrain failure. Prior to losing control I saw his crank lock up and he then overcorrects.

Scary! I doubt we'll ever hear the real story.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:40 PM
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Not sure what shifting system he was using, but if it was electronic, it is possible that the shifting system had an error?
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:09 PM
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not sure what shifting system he was using, but if it was electronic, it is possible that the shifting system had an error?
sram.
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:18 PM
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Not sure what shifting system he was using, but if it was electronic, it is possible that the shifting system had an error?
Frequency Jamming.
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:21 PM
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Frequency Jamming.
Easily done, but I would certainly like to think that it wasn't an issue.
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:25 PM
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Easily done, but I would certainly like to think that it wasn't an issue.
I just remember people talking about this when Etap first came out.
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:06 PM
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The wind double tapped him. Look at the gusts of wind on the finish flags and trees. Makes perfect sense. And also why they blamed it on sand, Trek doesn't want their bikes to look bad in windy conditions.
What, no one acknowledged the clever phrase here yet??? Nice one, @shoota!
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