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Old 09-24-2020, 06:14 PM
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It's a fake $300 receipt that comes in the groupset box. You show this document to your spouse.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:00 PM
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As velocipede stated earlier:
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So 96 BCD which is well small enough for tiny rings.
The Chorus and EKAR BCD is 123mm. It's listed on the crankset photo.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:01 PM
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I've heard otherwise. The chain doesn't fit in the 11/12spd tool from Campagnolo. However it fits in ours (Abbey) and a couple others. I was told yesterday by a factory tech they are going to revise the chain tool to work with at least 12 and 13spd.
I was told by Campy that it fits the 11/12 chain tools.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:11 PM
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I was told by Campy that it fits the 11/12 chain tools.
Ha that’s funny. When that tool was introduced and there was some resistance from the market re spending so much on a chain tool, the folks at Campagnolo (sorry - I simply cannot call it Campy) told me a c-clamp will complete the task with equal aplomb.

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Old 09-24-2020, 07:17 PM
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I was told by Campy that it fits the 11/12 chain tools.
If the 11/12spd chain tool works then what’s the new “400” tool for? It also seems odd they would make a new tool if the old one works and a quick link exists. Maybe a typo? Maybe the 11/12 “300” tool is ok for breaking if joining with a quick link but 400 is needed to join with a pin?


I also find it odd they call it ultrashift even though it only does one upshift. Does it upshift when you push the lever or when you release the lever? If on the push, that would explain why they didn’t use powershift branding.

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Old 09-24-2020, 07:25 PM
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Campy’s technical docs list UT-CN400 chain tool, which is a new tool. Doesn’t necessarily mean UT-CN300 isn’t compatible with new C-13 chains. TBD, i suppose.

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Old 09-24-2020, 07:28 PM
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If the 11/12spd chain tool works then what’s the new “400” tool for? It also seems odd they would make a new tool if the old one works and a quick link exists. Maybe a typo? Maybe the 11/12 “300” tool is ok for breaking if joining with a quick link but 400 is needed to join with a pin?


I also find it odd they call it ultrashift even though it only does one upshift. Does it upshift when you push the lever or when you release the lever? If on the push, that would explain why they didn’t use powershift branding.
So the tool, I was told by Campy that they made the tool and realized afterwards the new C13 fits the older 11/12 tool.

I haven't taken anything out of the boxes to play with. So I am not sure on the shifting. Plus they don't normally work well not set up on a bike.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:36 PM
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If the 11/12spd chain tool works then what’s the new “400” tool for? It also seems odd they would make a new tool if the old one works and a quick link exists. Maybe a typo? Maybe the 11/12 “300” tool is ok for breaking if joining with a quick link but 400 is needed to join with a pin?


I also find it odd they call it ultrashift even though it only does one upshift. Does it upshift when you push the lever or when you release the lever? If on the push, that would explain why they didn’t use powershift branding.
I would assume on the push. And tough to see the cassette dump feature working all that well on a gravel group. One at a time makes more sense there.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:36 PM
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I haven't taken anything out of the boxes to play with. So I am not sure on the shifting. Plus they don't normally work well not set up on a bike.
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I would assume on the push. And tough to see the cassette dump feature working all that well on a gravel group. One at a time makes more sense there.
Yeah, without a front derailleur, the multi upshift feels less critical. You still do get multi downshift if you need a quick bail out.
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Old 09-24-2020, 08:05 PM
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LOL! In the middle of taking picture of all the anodized spoke nipples I have. Stupid I know. But someone wants to see them to make a decision on them for their wheel build.
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Old 09-24-2020, 08:12 PM
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LOL! In the middle of taking picture of all the anodized spoke nipples I have. Stupid I know. But someone wants to see them to make a decision on them for their wheel build.
We demand info. I still have that park Y tool
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lol! In the middle of taking picture of all the anodized spoke nipples i have. .
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:20 PM
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I am ready to jump in on Ektar with both feet! Now if only it were available for purchase. I'm epically short on patience for these sorts of things.
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:39 PM
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Think we see rim brakes live past 2x12?
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