Look 585

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by flying

I actually wrote the US distributor & he said many have requested just that
I also showed him the threads here & WW & he said he would pass them along
That was well over a year ago tho

I doubt we’ll see it again, though it would be nice. Brands want to be seen as moving forward, not backwards. The market for a reissue of the 585 is probably quite small.

[klasse]

Originally Posted by saab2000

This is the Origin that lives in Minneapolis for when I visit and need to do a beer run at Minnehaha Falls! In no case is my bike holding me back. I believe it's the beer runs to Minnehaha Falls that are holding me back......

Really cool. I used to love riding down there from the U and over to Ft. Snelling to watch some planes land. Good old days!

[mmendoza87]

Reviving an old thread.

I just bought & built a brand new Look 585 that the previous owner kept in a closet for 14 years (!) and never used. When the deal came up on Craigslist, for the frame in my size for a good price, I couldn't resist. These were the hot bikes back when I got into road cycling ~2007 and back then I knew I wanted one someday--and finally got it.

Rides great except for one issue that I can't seem to find any mention of anywhere on the internet. The front wheel rubs on the brake pads whenever I'm sprinting out of the saddle.

Not even a full sprint, just a ~500w effort and some side-to-side weight shifting on the handlebars will cause the front wheel brake track to rub on the pads. Double checked both wheels, skewer tightness, even changed to a smaller tire. It feels to me that the fork blades are super soft because if you push the rim side-to-side with your fingers its easy to push it against the brake pads.

I have not yet had a chance to try other wheels yet but I never experienced this on any other frame with these Light Bicycle wheels. I am 65kg so not a heavyweight. I know the 585, even in its Ultra form, is not the stiffest frame, especially compared to today's standards. But I'm a little puzzled here. Could it be a bad fork?

[ridethecliche]

I'd probably start by trying a different wheel.

I love those bikes and remember gawking at them when they first came out! Yours looks rad.

[robt57]

Wheel is too stiff for bike/fork at your weight/size.

My 585 Origin did same thing with a Rolf CX58 wheel.

[saab2000]

Tire size?

[mmendoza87]

It's 25c with plenty of clearance.. definitely not tire rub. Will give another wheel a try, though.

[thwart]

Even though it’s a fairly deep carbon rim, I would suspect your 20 spoke front wheel is the problem here, not the fork.

[flying]

Originally Posted by thwart

Even though it’s a fairly deep carbon rim, I would suspect your 20 spoke front wheel is the problem here, not the fork.

+1 it is not the bike/Fork it is your wheel
Congrats on a great bike. !

[bshell]

I don't think wheel stiffness is a thing as far as this use case goes. If anything, something about the wheel system is too flexible (the build/spoke count/bearing adjustment/skewers --somewhere.) Got a pic of pad spacing? Can't see how tire size would relate.

[robt57]

HSC forks from my experience are not particularly stiff. From HSC3 forward IMO. But that is why I like them, an AME by comparison I always found overly stiff. Fine if up are sprinting 24/7 and every waking moment.

I took an AME off a Strong frame in favor of HSC3 and stopped getting beat up, a friend with a Feather Ti did this also. And my steel Strong was way stiffer than that Feather, his bike benefited greatly with more flex balance greatly.

What I do not know is if the Origin and Ultra had different fork specs. Stands to reason the Ultra would have stiffer fork.

I found the Origin in an XL with my 210lb butt on it barely stiff enough, but it was. The total upside being a bike that felt like a dream with even 23mm tires. But not the complete noodle a early Spesh Roubaix Fact-6R I once had was. But when you were JRA the 6R Roubaix with 23s was a dream in the smooth dept. The Origin a big improvement over that Roubaix IME.

[Dave]

I had one just like that and a special edition red model. Nice bikes. Fork stiffness was never a problem for me.

[Hawker]

I have the same bike and love it. Haven't had any fork issues but at 135lbs I'm not super strong.
Mine is a 48cm, yours looks a bit on the small side as well?

Good luck!
Steve

[saab2000]

No issues of this nature ever with my 585s, which remain my daily riders. I know they’re not ultra stiff but they’re stiff enough for 99.99% of average Joes.

I don’t know what’s going on but it sounds bizarre. Definitely try it with different wheels.

[fourflys]

super stupid question here, but..

have you loosened the quick release to ensure the axles are sitting in the dropouts correctly? I was sure I had installed my rear correctly one day and then felt "slow".. (I am slow, but not this slow!) it turned out when I loosened my QR, the axle dropped down into the dropout correctly.. probably not the issue, but can't hurt to check, if you haven't yet..

** sorry, looks like you did this already.. missed it in my first read..