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Old 01-12-2018, 09:12 PM
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thanks for posting sales guy.

i tell you, i'm getting really excited about nahbs this year. there are quite a few things i'm really interested to see, and a bunch of people i'm looking forward to meeting.

cool stuff!
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:20 PM
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I will agree that the brakes are not pleasing to my eye, but the rest of the group is very nice looking. The quality and machining of the cassette is spectacular.
The crank is what I imagine would result from one designer describing the new Shimano Dura Ace crank to another over a bad phone connection. And that Dura Ace crank is ugly to begin with.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:23 PM
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thanks for posting sales guy.

i tell you, i'm getting really excited about nahbs this year. there are quite a few things i'm really interested to see, and a bunch of people i'm looking forward to meeting.

cool stuff!
Sure thing. I don't mind posting things. Many times I get to play with stuff first or before it heads into the real world. So I don't mind at all.

I am too. Hopefully you'll stop by and fill out for the frameset giveaway.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:24 PM
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The crank is what I imagine would result from one designer describing the new Shimano Dura Ace crank to another over a bad phone connection. And that Dura Ace crank is ugly to begin with.
HA!! Could totally see that happening. Amazingly, it's Italy that does all the design work. That's actually where their headquartered. But given my past experience working for northern Italians, Yeah, i could see it happening.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:48 PM
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This is YUUUGE!
(but is it correct? FSA website says 40-50mm reach....not 57)

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...The brakes, look like EE Brakes. The brakes, tons to say about these. You can do a short or long reach on one brake caliper. Everything is stainless steel, titanium or aluminum. So no rusting!!!!! HUGE thing there. And thats the same on the derailleurs also. Small parts will be available so these won't be a throw away item. I love that about their kit.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:03 PM
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This is YUUUGE!
(but is it correct? FSA website says 40-50mm reach....not 57)
It's what I was told. I didn't measure it. I looked at the website and didn't see the sizing listed. I will text my FSA buddy and ask him. If anything they'll let me know on Monday. But that's what I was told. I can also post a picture tomorrow of it. If you look just under the alloy spacer, you can see the bottom of the pivot bolt. I'll post a better picture tomorrow tho.

If a standard brake has a range of 40-50mm in the brake arms alone, you don't need much in the pivot bolt to get to 57mm.

I'll measure and post a picture tomorrow.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:58 PM
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Its like FSA's core mission and mandate is to make the ugliest parts possible.
Thanks for saying it for me.

FSA hire me, I will make sure tour parts will look the part
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:36 PM
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Ear derailleur looks pretty nice, the shifters look pretty good as well.

The front derailleur looks okay, that module is pretty small for a brain box all things considered.

If it works well and is price competitive it will shut a lot of traps, it's not like the new campy or shimano didn't take some getting used to.


I hope the cassette comes in lots of good ratios, what will be the max cog size on the cassette?
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:52 AM
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I hope the cassette comes in lots of good ratios, what will be the max cog size on the cassette?
The FSA site shows that the cassette will be available in 11-25, 11-28, and 11-32. Not lots of ratios, but reasonable for launch I'd say.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:12 AM
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I dis forget to say, thanks for sharing the pictures and the knowledge sales guy!
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I am not usually a FSA anything fan. This stuff looks nice and its cool to see in the market.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:24 AM
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They (Campy, Shimano) will all have a wireless group out before long.
Don't count on it..how many BB30 cranks does shimano have?

For SalesGuy..aren't the ders wired to a power source..then levers wireless?
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:13 AM
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Don't count on it..how many BB30 cranks does shimano have?

For SalesGuy..aren't the ders wired to a power source..then levers wireless?
Correct Peter. It's wireless for the shifters and only has a small amount of wiring exposed to the front and rear derailleur. I would bet most of the damage to EPS or Di2 is to the wires around the headtube area. Especially during shipping. And it means a ton of extra routing of wires. This has just two wires.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:29 AM
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Correct Peter. It's wireless for the shifters and only has a small amount of wiring exposed to the front and rear derailleur. I would bet most of the damage to EPS or Di2 is to the wires around the headtube area. Especially during shipping. And it means a ton of extra routing of wires. This has just two wires.
I personally think hard wiring the ders is a great 'compromise'. They take the most juice, and reduces batteries to one and 'protects' it as well. BUT I really don't think the wiring of di2 or EPS is any big deal..setup is certainly easier but functionally, after put together..wired or wireless really means nada.

I think the next gig with shimano and electronic is a 'smart' front der ala XTR..with one shifter(rear) and a programed front der w/o a shifter. Wireless? I don;t see it from shimano or Campag. Neither see any advantage except for setup..and I doubt they care much about that. Particularly shimano. If they don't see the 'advantage' they don't do it..carbon cranks, BB30 cranks, a good example.

BUT seeing some of the 2018 pro tour bikes with hydro disc setups with internal hydro lines..bet the wrench-force are 'lovin' that...

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It's literally shredded carbon.
that's pretty much how 99.9% of modern CF cranks are made. the days of woven CF cranks are history.

great post, thx for sharing!
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