Garmin server issues - Page 3

benb · #31 07-24-2020, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kppolich

-On average 30,000 new websites are hacked every day.
-Hackers create 300,000 new pieces of malware daily.

From:
https://www.webarxsecurity.com/websi...ting%20malware.

A lot of that is amateur websites & home users getting hacked though.

Garmin is a tech company full of engineers, this is kind of a big deal. It's not even that they run a website, they build a lot of software.

They most likely have a full time security team, if they don't it's a little ridiculous.

It'd be interesting to know what products they use.. I work in Cybersecurity.. it's not like I've ever had the customer lists memorized but no product I've ever worked on has ever had them as a customer IIRC and at least 2 of the last 3 would have been highly relevant to Garmin.

pooneej · #32 07-24-2020, 03:24 PM

Polar fitness FTW !!!!!!!!!!! lol /jk

ColnagoC59 · #33 07-24-2020, 07:24 PM

cable upload works. its not so bad. i just hope account data isn't compromised.

CMiller · #34 07-24-2020, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kppolich

First World Problem.

99% of problems posted on this forum are first world problems including probably any thread you or I started.

ColnagoC59 · #35 07-24-2020, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by benb

A lot of that is amateur websites & home users getting hacked though.

Garmin is a tech company full of engineers, this is kind of a big deal. It's not even that they run a website, they build a lot of software.

They most likely have a full time security team, if they don't it's a little ridiculous.

It'd be interesting to know what products they use.. I work in Cybersecurity.. it's not like I've ever had the customer lists memorized but no product I've ever worked on has ever had them as a customer IIRC and at least 2 of the last 3 would have been highly relevant to Garmin.

Leave the world of banking and insurance and i think you'll find that even in this day and age many companies under-invest in disaster recovery and data security. it's always something they'll address next year. it's not an expense that directly benefits the bottom line "today". Bad actors such as the ones purportedly behind this attack take advantage of this short termism

If I was a stock or bond holder I'd immediately want to know what security and regular audits were conducted and what they found. Once this is over I suspect heads will roll and whether they have a reporting structure that takes data security seriously. My guess based on the duration of this outage and reading the new and my own intuition is that Garmin does not.

trener1 · #36 07-25-2020, 07:16 AM

Considering that we are going on day 3 now, I would say that this is pretty huge.
Usually if a company like this is down for 30 minutes it's a problem.

unterhausen · #37 07-25-2020, 08:18 AM

I give even odds that there are people at polar and wahoo that have been meeting all weekend about this, even if their online presence isn't quite so ambitious as garmin's

AngryScientist · #38 07-25-2020, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by trener1

Considering that we are going on day 3 now, I would say that this is pretty huge.
Usually if a company like this is down for 30 minutes it's a problem.

Yea this is massive and there will be many hours of post crisis analysis on this.

I work in the heavy industry/power/petrochemical business and we had a client hacked with ransomware; and though I don’t begin to understand the particulars, they were essentially told by an expert firm: under no circumstances pay the ransom; they basically canned all their hardware and started over. Took about a day and a bazzilion man hours of work.

This stuff is serious

joosttx · #39 07-25-2020, 10:15 AM

Funny I haven’t noticed the quality of their service being worse than usually.

unterhausen · #40 07-25-2020, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Took about a day and a bazzilion man hours of work.

This stuff is serious

That's pretty impressive they could do that. In my lab, it seems like recovering one machine from a mobo failure takes forever.

A single point failure taking out an entire company seems mind boggling to me. I am waiting to find out what bad software they were running. Surprised that no ex-employees are blabbing about it already.