Lance Armstrong's Caloi and Laurent Fignon's Gitane on eBay

[colker]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

He did, pretty sure there was a Merckx made MXLeader labeled as a Caloi....
Not sure Motorola used them but I think they did..

It´s a bike i always wanted; Caloi /Merckx mxl. I am in Caloi country and only seen one at the Caloi showroom.

[KJMUNC]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

He did, pretty sure there was a Merckx made MXLeader labeled as a Caloi....
Not sure Motorola used them but I think they did..

As Texbike referenced Moto def used Caloi badged Caloi frames in '95 and '96....I have Yates's Caloi MXL from '95.

I traded emails with Yates about my/his frame and he stated that he and LA almost exclusively raced on the Caloi badged Ti Litespeed frames during most of the '95 campaign but did use the MXLs on occasion early in the year. All the pictures I've been able to dig up support that and I can't find any pics of LA or Yates on a Caloi MXL. Most of the team was on the Litespeed frames by the TdF, including Casartelli (RIP). Mellow Johnny's in Austin have both of LA's MXL and Ti Caloi bikes on display.

As an aside, the frame shown in your pic above is from the Lotto team in '94. His specific '94 Caloi/MXL frame sold in 2016 for $2250

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by merckx

It was reported that Lemond began his early spring training and classics racing on a steel frame. When he dropped 20 pounds of body weight he would then ride a titanium framed-bicycle. When he dropped another 20 pounds he was then allowed to use a carbon-framed machine for the stage races.

Perhaps Armstrong used several different machines during the Caloi years?

I know rider weight fluctuates throughout the season, but are you suggesting that Lemond's weight fluctuated 40 lbs within a season? That seems high.

[merckx]

Originally Posted by prototoast

I know rider weight fluctuates throughout the season, but are you suggesting that Lemond's weight fluctuated 40 lbs within a season? That seems high.

The Lemond comment was tongue-in-cheek. The part about Armstrong using more than one machine during a season or three wasn't. My point is that the Motorola Caloi machine on Ebay could be one of Armstrong's bikes, maybe never used by him, maybe a training machine, maybe a back-up, or maybe raced minimally. Who knows?

Regarding Lemond, it was reported that he did use lighter machines as his season progressed; steel, ti, and then carbon. The point is that pro cyclists use many different machines over the interval of a season. My flip comment about his weight is in reference to his legendary propensity to gain a sh*t-load of weight over the winter months, followed by his struggle to find racing form once the spring season started. I love Lemond. He is one of us.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by peanutgallery

One is way over valued, the other is way under

Both are overvalued. If they weren’t the actual bikes, authenticated to have been ridden in big race wins, they’re just bikes. Even then they’re overvalued by a lot.

Both appear to have non-original parts.

[colker]

Originally Posted by fiamme red

Here's another of Lance's Motorola bikes with a Flite.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=63461

Saddle height seems way taller than every other pic i have seen of LA riding.... and always w/ a SM Concor lite.

EDIT: bars also different. I always see him on shallow bars. Those look like deep drops.

[cfox]

If you sit on that Caloi and get pregnant, it was Lance's bike

[bicycletricycle]

I like both of these bikes.

[weisan]

Originally Posted by peanutgallery

One is way over valued, the other is way under

Mine is better looking and...cheaper....much, much cheaper!

[colker]

Originally Posted by weisan

Mine is better looking and...cheaper....much, much cheaper!

It looked even better before you took off the perfect campagnolo build it had. Why ?

[CunegoFan]

Originally Posted by merckx

It was reported that Lemond began his early spring training and classics racing on a steel frame. When he dropped 20 pounds of body weight he would then ride a titanium framed-bicycle. When he dropped another 20 pounds he was then allowed to use a carbon-framed machine for the stage races.

Jeebus! Maybe a better plan would have been not to gain forty pounds during the off-season.

[Mike V]

Originally Posted by colker

Saddle height seems way taller than every other pic i have seen of LA riding.... and always w/ a SM Concor lite.

EDIT: bars also different. I always see him on shallow bars. Those look like deep drops.

Here he is on an Avocet and Belgian deep.

[merckx]

Originally Posted by Mike V

Here he is on an Avocet and Belgian deep.

and Max.

[likebikes]

Originally Posted by peanutgallery

One is way over valued, the other is way under

which one is which?

[Mike V]

Flite, Caloi Max