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Old 05-10-2019, 11:23 AM
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nice blog on tire / wheels for gravel

Forum sponsor Next Cycling wrote a pretty good blog on wheel and tire combinations and choices for different road conditions. It's is informational and entertaining as well.
https://nextcycling.com/blogs/news/dirt
FWIW, Jerry is currently building me a set of wheels for an incoming Ti Zanconato gravel bike.
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:03 PM
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Thanks for sharing.

Jerry does a good job of setting the context by first describing the quality of his dirt roads and also his roadie bias. It makes sense that he comes in skinny relative to the current road plus trends, but he still conveys the notion that gravel tires and wheels apply on a spectrum. Everything is relative, right? Mine are just a notch chubbier.

fwiw I like the way the Next website lays out wheels, options, weight. It just makes sense to me. Leaves me with no questions.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:12 PM
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The info on Jerry’s blog is fantastic. He’s opinionated, but technically knowledgeable and also insightful. I have a set of NEXT Rule’s that I think are unrivaled as far as tubeless for CX, and they have proven to be perfect for technical gravel racing as well. I haven’t seen anything with a comparable shallow hookless bead and low weight except the newest offerings from Stan’s, but I think the wide bead profile on the Rule’s makes an additional difference as far preventing pinch flats. I’m sure the XPlor’s are an unbeatable all-surface wheel.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:35 AM
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I hardly read much of the article yet, but his opening statement grabbed me right away:
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When I was growing up we called unpaved roads dirt roads. I still call them dirt roads. No pavement on it? That is a dirt road. Northern New Hampshire lingo, what can I say.
The bike industry seems to have decide "gravel" is de rigueur.
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:41 AM
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Thanks for the link. It was a nice and informative read with some humor.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:19 AM
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me and this guy would get along fine with our choices on gravel. its not supposed to be easy, its supposed to be fun
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:30 AM
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Read the whole article, didn't quite get much out of it, nor the humor. That's just me.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:57 AM
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WeiPal The humor for me was the "disclaimer" he put in about mid way through.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:58 AM
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where I grew up, we called them dirt roads too. There used to be a UVa bumper sticker that said "all dirt roads lead to Virginia Tech." Which cracked me up even though I lived within a mile of the Va Tech campus. The dirt roads around there probably saw some maintenance at some point. But the surface looked a lot like the strada biancha. So nice to ride on. I used to go out with 23mm tubulars and never had a problem.

Here in Pennsylvania, they have 2 layers of gravel on most of the forest service roads. The first layer is approximately 4" major dimension. That's the layer that will pinch flat you in a second if one of the rocks makes it through the top layer of #2 gravel. I have hit some of those big rocks so hard I thought for sure I was going to pinch flat, but I have gone to 38mm and tubeless, so it doesn't happen much any more. When I was running 30mm tires, I got 20 pinch flats in a year.

Just checked, Lucinda Williams is the expert, "gravel roads"
https://youtu.be/jxpPL_aY190

on edit: I hate the term "gravel grinder" so much I am going to stop using the word 'gravel' wrt bikes. From now on, it's 'dirt'.

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Old 05-11-2019, 02:55 PM
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Anyone know where NEXT sources their rims?
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:21 PM
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Anyone know where NEXT sources their rims?
Jerry is a forum member and site sponsor. Hopefully he will see the thread and chime in.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:50 AM
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nice blog on tire / wheels for gravel

hmmmm... maybe the Next Grit mtb wheel is what I need.

Yesterday’s rock>1287gwheel snafu has me thinking that taking a step toward a more sensible balance between weight and durability is the right move.
The Santa Cruz Reserve 25 or 27 look nice also.

Anyone have experience with Project 321 hubs?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:17 AM
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Anyone have experience with Project 321 hubs?
It's hard to find many online reviews of the Project 321 hubs. The few I found were positive. I ultimately decided on Chris King hubs because the 321 hubs are currently not available in center lock, 6 bolt only.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:38 PM
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Anyone know where NEXT sources their rims?
From this news story it appears that it's China:

https://www.singletracks.com/blog/un...he-next-level/
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:46 PM
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Jerry is a forum member and site sponsor. Hopefully he will see the thread and chime in.

Oh hey, look at this, a thread. Sorry, I routinely search the forum for discussions on the wheels but obviously mistakes were made in the naming of the business as "next wheels" is a pretty useless search string. You can always tag me or DM me, I'm pretty good at being online constantly
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