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Old 03-22-2018, 10:02 PM
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Tubeless Tire Help

Ok, I thought I had got the tubeless thing down. Doing Hutchinsons to Pacenti is no problem, but Schwalbe on Velocity Aelerons is driving me nuts. I've tried:

- Mounting tire, removing valve cores, blasting with C02.
- Mounting tire, removing cores, blasting with air compressor (sustained) and trying to clamp down to seat the bead little by little.

To no avail...are these rims hard to do? Would a blaster make it easier? Help!
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:12 PM
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If the compressor doesnt seat it not sure what will.
You're using dishsoap on the bead right?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:13 PM
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Are you soaping up the tire beads before you try to seat? I either use soapy water or some sealant to help the tire hold air long enough to seat in the rim.

I also have a Schwalbe Air Blaster that I pump up with my floor pump to about 140# to seat a tire. It's got a ball valve and with the stem core removed, almost instantaneously inflates the tire. That's been my best tubeless purchase so far.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:31 PM
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For really tough ones to seat try using suran wrap. Wrap it alone the tire compressing it against the rim. I've had good success doing it this way.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:34 PM
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Another trick I learned while mounting my MTB tires was removing the valve cores and using the compressor. Seated the tough to mount tires I was battling in seconds
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:48 PM
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Soapy water isn't combustible enough. Try parts cleaner:

https://youtu.be/N45KcCsBYmc
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:55 PM
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Another trick I learned while mounting my MTB tires was removing the valve cores and using the compressor. Seated the tough to mount tires I was battling in seconds
He did that, it's in the original post.
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Old 03-23-2018, 12:39 AM
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Has the tire been pre-seated? Try putting a tube in there and mount the tire like a regular clincher. Let the tire seat and let it sit for 10 minutes. Then take out the tube and install the valve core and inflate.

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Old 03-23-2018, 01:12 AM
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Has the tire been pre-seated? Try putting a tube in there and mount the tire like a regular clincher. Let the tire seat and let it sit for 10 minutes. Then take out the tube and install the valve core and inflate.

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This^ combined with soapy water. Give the tube a few minutes to make sure it's really seated before taking a single side off to install as usual.
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:10 AM
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/\ exactly, make sure one side is still fully seated when tube comes off.

I do like the saran wrap idea, never had heard of that one
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:55 AM
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I've used a flat ratcheting cargo strap around the perimeter of the tire while inflating with a compressor.
I also warm the tire in the sun or just hanging in the basement for a while.
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:19 AM
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Ok, I thought I had got the tubeless thing down. Doing Hutchinsons to Pacenti is no problem, but Schwalbe on Velocity Aelerons is driving me nuts. I've tried:

- Mounting tire, removing valve cores, blasting with C02.
- Mounting tire, removing cores, blasting with air compressor (sustained) and trying to clamp down to seat the bead little by little.

To no avail...are these rims hard to do? Would a blaster make it easier? Help!
I’m having the same problem. I converted the HED Belgium rims on my old CX bike last night to tubeless. I have a compressor, but the head on my Park INF-1 inflator tool blew apart last night and I can’t find the missing parts under my bench, and now I can’t get the beads seated. I’ve used tubeless on my MTB without issue for years. I ordered a new compressor head and seals last night, but they won’t be here until next week.

One trick you can try is to use a ratchet strap around the tire and rim to press the tire flatter and force the tire beads closer to the hooks on the rim. I’ve used duct tap in a pinch to help seat MTB tires in the past. A compressor certainly helps.
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:03 AM
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OP, in extreme cases, I have put a tube in and left it over night.
Also fyi, remove any little tits (gas vents during molding) on the bead that may be remaining. Schwalbe is notorious for leaving those on which can cause seepage over time.
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:24 AM
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Has the tire been pre-seated? Try putting a tube in there and mount the tire like a regular clincher. Let the tire seat and let it sit for 10 minutes. Then take out the tube and install the valve core and inflate.

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This works the best..If the tire is a little 'small' for the rim, it may be challenging.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:59 AM
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Great tips, thanks everybody! I've got an old compressor perhaps it doesn't have enough power. And no soapy water, but that Schwalbe "easy fit." NOT SO EASY!

I'll try the tube idea. Last Sunday's ride was with a tube anyway!!! LOL
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