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Canti brakes would only be an alternate design if I didn't do a roadie and instead got a classic cross bike done up. And I don't need/want one for bigger tires and such. My Kirk is going to have room for that and is my all day rider with longer chainstays, room for bigger tires and fenders, etc. I'm specifically looking for a tight, stiff, long-low road machine for racing and training. Something impractical and fun .
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My list of steel bikes to try out from my experience would go CSI, Atlanta or any other similar Serotta. A nice steel Paramount pdg series. A Giordana Spica or other Billato brothers built steel bike.
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I'm getting one from Paul because I've wanted to get one from Paul for over a decade. Getting a custom is not just for those who have morphological oddities, and it certainly isn't about getting the lightest or most aero rig out there (in most cases). Some of us just want to support independent builders, or like custom paint, or just like having something different than what's out there off the shelf or on the auction block. An 80's Merckx or Colnago would be fun, but neither will have modern tubing, threadless steerers, appropriate spacing, geometry I want, or little niceties like headtube mounted housing stops. I'll edit the original post to make it more clear that a cross bike is an alternative option, not a "hey, make me a road bike that's also a cross bike" option. That would be stupid. I'm making a decision on what I generally want and then talking to Paul about what refinements he recommends. That holds true whether the conversation starts around a cross bike, road bike, or 29er.
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A Steelman Stage Race would fit the bill. I had one with straight blade steel fork and it was an awesome ride.
What about this Ritchey Chicane? I have a Road Logic from the 90s and it's also sweet. https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=2409265 |
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Going to talk to Mistermo about that Chicane...
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Right on! Here was my Steelman: https://forums.thepaceline.net/showp...6&postcount=74 |
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I've heard enough, enjoy your custom road bike, lol! Hope it rides 1/2 as good as my 1982 colnago.
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This is the weirdest thread.
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It's entertaining, and slightly odd. Kind of my MO.
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I'm not trying to be mean I'm just saying if you want the best riding possible racing bike made from steel it would be a Colnago or Merckx made with better materials. Just IMHO. Saying that's not the geometry you want is basically saying you want worse geometry than the best rider in human history rode, for some reason, unbeknownst to me.
And how I understood the thread, was that you wanted to ride other bikes to inform the custom builder on what you wanted. Well, might as well ride the best of what is available then request better materials, which would be better frame tubing and a carbon fork. You can disagree all you want, that's fine. But if you want the best possible racing bike..... And don't get me started on long and low or I will post a picture of my 1982 colnago which is probably longer and lower than you would like! Serottas are good but NO BETTER than a Merckx or Colnago! there is no "magic" in the geometry. Last edited by mtechnica; 08-14-2018 at 09:44 PM. |
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