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[Dino Suegiù]

Originally Posted by OtayBW

Thing that strikes me as odd - whether you think the call should have been for the top of the climb, or the entire stage - is that there doesn't seem to be any precedent for this in the Tour (e.g., if x% of the ride is completed by y% of the riders, or something like that, the stage is recorded). They made a call today and that was that, which seems a little wonky to me. Many/most other sports have rules for what is an 'official' game spelled out in advance.

There is nothing wrong with using the pre-established, well-known, intermediate time check points for that. Those are "lines in the sand" too, in that regard, and stopping the stage clock there seems perfectly rational. Certainly more rational than trying to algorithm out everyone's time at any other arbitrarily chosen post-stage-stoppage line.

Originally Posted by sevencyclist

However, it is somewhat unfair to stop a a point previous to the decision since as many have mentioned, some were saving it in the tank.

Unfair how?
"What iffing" forward is useless, and also unfair. Nobody knows how much more or less "tank" anyone had over anyone else.

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by Dino Suegiù

There is nothing wrong with using the pre-established, well-known, intermediate time check points for that. Those are "lines in the sand" too, in that regard, and stopping the stage clock there seems perfectly rational. Certainly more rational than trying to algorithm out everyone's time at any other arbitrarily chosen post-stage-stoppage line.

It's still a moving target, chosen seemingly willy-nilly.....

[charliedid]

Bike racing is so dumb.

[beeatnik]

The Tour de France is so weird.

[Dino Suegiù]

Originally Posted by OtayBW

It's still a moving target, chosen seemingly willy-nilly.....

Determined when the route is determined; located at very fixed, known points; published everywhere; even reconnoitered sometimes; intermediate check points hardly seem either moving or willy-nilly.

[bward1028]

it is weird that they picked a spot with no time controls as the official ending point of the stage.

[peanutgallery]

I love it when the Tour descends into chaos

Best one in years. Bring on the drama

[rnhood]

Bernal was going to win the Tour anyway. Even Contadore said no one would hang with him the final two days in the mountains. Alliphillipe ran a good race and has heart, but it was only a matter of time. He doesn't have all that good of a team, and being in yellow most of the race takes a toll. I do hope he ends up with a podium spot but it's doubtful.

[ERK55]

Anyone what what exactly happened to Pinot?
I mean physically (didn't crash, right?)

[rnhood]

He tore a quad muscle. Not sure how though.

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by Dino Suegiù

Determined when the route is determined; located at very fixed, known points; published everywhere; even reconnoitered sometimes; intermediate check points hardly seem either moving or willy-nilly.

Many check points to choose from, and yet only one is selected. And they're measuring the rider time by, let's see - oh never mind. Amazing how that works....

[e-RICHIE]

Originally Posted by Dino Suegiù

Determined when the route is determined; located at very fixed, known points; published everywhere; even reconnoitered sometimes; intermediate check points hardly seem either moving or willy-nilly.

From the news I read there was no official clock at the top of that climb. Only hand-held stopwatches.

[bikinchris]

Originally Posted by ERK55

Anyone what what exactly happened to Pinot?
I mean physically (didn't crash, right?)

They interviewed the team and his problem was there before the stage start. He had an, injured, possibly torn quad.

[choke]

Originally Posted by ERK55

Anyone what what exactly happened to Pinot?
I mean physically (didn't crash, right?)

According to his team:

Thibaut suffers from a muscular lesion on his left thigh. Yesterday, he finished stage 18 with a sharp pain and had troubles walking in the evening. His condition didn't improve today, he just withdrew from the #TDF2019.

https://twitter.com/GroupamaFDJ/stat...44744364449793

[charliedid]

So the GPS units on the bikes are not really real time? It sure seems more sporting to award riders the location when the clock is stopped. If that’s reasonably possible.


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