10,000 feet of climbing in 100 miles ....

[Fixed]

10,000 feet of climbing in 100 miles Hard just right or not enough ?
On my daily ride I gain a bit more than 1000 feet every 10 miles
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[verticaldoug]

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/33097138

It's a nice amount of rolling climbs. We have to hit the hudson highlands and the parks to get that close to NYC

[mass_biker]

A little north of where I live, it's right around 1000 feet of climbing for every 10 miles of ride time. And it's all up and down. No huge climbs like SoCal, but shorter stingers in the 10%+ range consistently. A recent century I did from home was something like ~8500 feet over 100 miles. Maximum elevation for that climb was a smidge over 1000 feet to put that in context. I contrast that to the last time I did Palomar (SoCal) from the Pala Casino - that was like ~6500 feet over 53 miles - but that was mainly all up from Pala to the observatory (with a few drops on the way out - Marion Canyon) and mainly all down from the top (with the exception of that drag out Marion Canyon on the way back).
FWIW - I was totally blown on both rides. So yes, for me, 1000 feet of climbing in 10 miles is hard.

m_b

[pdmtong]

My out and back yesterday started with 10.5/1800 and ended with a total of 21/2100. That's how it is around here.

[echappist]

Agreed with above.

Anything where the cumulative ascent > 1.5% of distance is hilly in my books.

[bigbill]

https://theassaults.com/assault-on-mt-mitchell/

[joosttx]

Definitely not enough.... and I prefer to do it on a mountain bike

[Tickdoc]

Damn you guys I have to ride all day here to get 3000 ft.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Fixed

10,000 feet of climbing in 100 miles Hard just right or not enough ?

When I was first getting into recreational road cycling I was taught that 100'/mile was the metric to use for identifying a "hard" ride. iow, if the elevation gain was at or near 100' per total mile you could probably count on the ride being physically challenging, and if it was over 100'/mile you could definitely count on the ride being physically challenging, and if it was less than 100'/mile...

aye, well there's the rub: How much lower than 100'/mile does a ride profile need to be before it's considered "not hard"? 75'/mile? 50'/mile? Nobody ever taught me that metric!

Still, I tend to look at ride profiles with that 100'/mile figure somewhere in the back of my mind. It's a nice benchmark.

[Dave]

My easy ride to Estes Park has about 3000 feet in 22 miles. That's only 2.6%. My old regular route of 10 miles up Deer Creek Canyon road was much steeper

The 28 mile climb up Mt. Evan's is not considered to be very steep, at about 4% average, but the 14,000 foot elevation and temps in the forties at the top make it challenging. That's 6500 feet of gain.

What can be tough is rolling hills in the foothill areas where some of the long grades are 10%. That's why I need a 32/34 low gear. I have no idea what the total feet of climbing is, but 40 miles of it wears me out.

There's a short but much steeper than 10% winding section if I go to Estes through Glen Haven. I've seen speeds as low as 3.7 mph.

[Tony T]

Used to be a ride called the Gunks 10k — 10,000 ft in the first 75 miles. (The Shawangunk Ridge in the Hudson Valley)

I ride there all the time, but could never do this climb. I’ll settle on a 50 mile, 3k climb as one of my usual rides.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by joosttx

Definitely not enough.... and I prefer to do it on a mountain bike

ridding that much in a MTB sound aweful.


to the OP -

1000k elevation per 10 miles is the golden ratio they say. Its definitely hard miles, anyone that say its not are full of it.

[p nut]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

1000k elevation per 10 miles ... Its definitely hard miles, anyone that say its not are full of it.

Boy, I’ll say......

[smead]

It of course all depends on how ya do it. 100' per mile over 50-100 miles at a hard training pace is what you need to go faster. Ride it with friends at a social pace - no big deal. You can hurt yourself doing 20 flat miles - pace and intensity matters.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by smead

It of course all depends on how ya do it. 100' per mile over 50-100 miles at a hard training pace is what you need to go faster. Ride it with friends at a social pace - no big deal. You can hurt yourself doing 20 flat miles - pace and intensity matters.

This. A solo 100mi with that kind of climbing and pushing the pace is a hard day's work. With friends, a lunch stop, and easy gears, still impressive, but much more doable.