And another "help me with some bike options" thread - Page 4

tony_mm · #46 09-10-2019, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

FWIW- I also have an Open. Don't get that if you really want fenders.

Don’t get an Open U.P/ U.P.P.E.R...

Get an open WI.DE. More clearance and Open will soon release some specific fenders for the WI.DE

Duende · #47 09-10-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scottc��w2

Maybe I missed it, but what single bike did you settle on?

Mosaic GT-1 I’m no expert on modern bikes... as I haven’t ridden that many truth be told. But I can say I’ve beaten the hell out of this thing on the trails and it still still springs to action on pavement.

It’s super stiff but surprisingly doesn’t beat me up. Probably more bike than I deserve, but it had the feel I was after. Hugs the road... doesn’t handle like a shopping cart... simple design aesthetics. Admittedly knowing what worked for Houston here also was super helpful as he lives here in the bay too.

Tons of great bikes out there though for gravel these days. And the frame is only one part of the equation. Finding solid wheels, tires, AND BRAKES that actually work took some time too!

R3awak3n · #48 09-10-2019, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony_mm

Don’t get an Open U.P/ U.P.P.E.R...

Get an open WI.DE. More clearance and Open will soon release some specific fenders for the WI.DE

but I think he wants 2x so WI.DE doesnt do that.

But also normal UP UPPER not so great with 2x it seems... at least with my experience so I would skip OPEN if you want 2x (they say GRX will work great but I would like to see it to belive it).

John H. · #49 09-10-2019, 08:50 PM

UP and UPPER work great with 2x, I have run mine that way for almost 12 months.
My setup has been:
XTR 11-40 11 speed cassette.
Ultegra RX long cage model (DI2)
34-50 Dura-Ace 9000 chainrings- 1st on an Easton crankset with Power2max, more recently on SRM Origin
Dura-Ace 9150 front derailleur (DI2)
9170 Shifters

Recently changed to rear derailleur to GRX 817 (for DI2)- This is even better. No need to fine tune the clutch on the derailleur. No chain slap at all.

I run this same setup on my Seven- also works great.

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

but I think he wants 2x so WI.DE doesnt do that.

But also normal UP UPPER not so great with 2x it seems... at least with my experience so I would skip OPEN if you want 2x (they say GRX will work great but I would like to see it to belive it).

tony_mm · #50 09-10-2019, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

but I think he wants 2x so WI.DE doesnt do that.

The OP wrote "2x preferred".

joosttx · #51 09-10-2019, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Duende

Admittedly knowing what worked for Houston here also was super helpful as he lives here in the bay too.
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I just listen to what John Hunt says and then I usually do something different but eventually, I do what he says and he is right.... except for dropper posts.

R3awak3n · #52 09-10-2019, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

UP and UPPER work great with 2x, I have run mine that way for almost 12 months.
My setup has been:
XTR 11-40 11 speed cassette.
Ultegra RX long cage model (DI2)
34-50 Dura-Ace 9000 chainrings- 1st on an Easton crankset with Power2max, more recently on SRM Origin
Dura-Ace 9150 front derailleur (DI2)
9170 Shifters

Recently changed to rear derailleur to GRX 817 (for DI2)- This is even better. No need to fine tune the clutch on the derailleur. No chain slap at all.

I run this same setup on my Seven- also works great.

maybe clutch RD does wonders. I have said on another thread. My campy has been a chain suck fest and a lot of other people have had problems with chainsuck as well on 2x. Maybe clutch RD is the answer though

Duende · #53 09-10-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

maybe clutch RD does wonders. I have said on another thread. My campy has been a chain suck fest and a lot of other people have had problems with chainsuck as well on 2x. Maybe clutch RD is the answer though

Curious, what’s your set up? Mines been completely fine. Running 50/34 up front and a 11-34 in the back. HO Record derailleur and Cranks

John H. · #54 09-10-2019, 10:02 PM

Blame your Campy group, not the Open or the fact that it is 2x.

That said, I think a 1x with AXS Eagle rear and 10-50 cassette is a viable option.
Just need to run Hope brake calipers with it

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

maybe clutch RD does wonders. I have said on another thread. My campy has been a chain suck fest and a lot of other people have had problems with chainsuck as well on 2x. Maybe clutch RD is the answer though

joosttx · #55 09-10-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

Blame your Campy group, not the Open or the fact that it is 2x.

That said, I think a 1x with AXS Eagle rear and 10-50 cassette is a viable option.
Just need to run Hope brake calipers with it

This is what I’m think about doing.

R3awak3n · #56 09-11-2019, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Duende

Curious, what’s your set up? Mines been completely fine. Running 50/34 up front and a 11-34 in the back. HO Record derailleur and Cranks

Potenza hydro with easton crank up front. I tried a campy crank and would not work (not campy ho, just a regar chorus). The crank would not clear chianstay.

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Originally Posted by John H.

Blame your Campy group, not the Open or the fact that it is 2x.

That said, I think a 1x with AXS Eagle rear and 10-50 cassette is a viable option.
Just need to run Hope brake calipers with it

Ok... I actually heard from the OPEN guys who said a ton of people with ultegra 2x have chainsuck issues. So its not campy to blame. Maybe its not OPEN to blame either but there is a certain combo of that bike and some 2x systems that doesnt work great. Just because some people have had good experiences does not mean everyone has. I have never had issues like these on the many bikes I have setup.

I am just sharing my frustating experiences, I still think its a good bike and by all means OP buy one and put 2x on it.

Duende · #57 09-11-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

Potenza hydro with easton crank up front. I tried a campy crank and would not work (not campy ho, just a regar chorus). The crank would not clear chianstay.

Have you noticed any particular road condition when the chain suck happens?

R3awak3n · #58 09-11-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Duende

Have you noticed any particular road condition when the chain suck happens?

not really. At first I thought it was only when it was muddy (first and second occurrence) but last few times it was on a nice dry day. I thought was just me for a while and thought maybe chainline on my particular setup but seems like others have problems too.

I tried, 3/4 cranks as well... The FSA crank was the best one but it still happened once. I am now switching to 1X and hoping I can finally ride this bike and not worry about this.