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Old 04-18-2021, 04:36 PM
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With what I do, I need to protect my hands.
The hand surgeon I see -- who mercifully has not been required to perform surgery on my hands...yet -- has a fairly specialized clientele: Half of the string section of the New York Philharmonic and 90% of the string faculty at Julliard. So I figured he'd be the perfect doc for a former professional bass player like me, because he would understand the value I put on my hands like few other doctors.

Silly me. At our first meeting, after I described some hand pain related to long stretches of riding on the hoods, he said "Cycling seems like a pretty stupid hobby for a musician."

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Old 04-18-2021, 04:54 PM
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Insulting patients seems like a poor bedside manner for a pbysician.
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:00 PM
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Insulting patients seems like a poor bedside manner for a pbysician.

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Old 04-18-2021, 05:07 PM
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dunno about that. but in my experience, lies dig even deeper.

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Old 04-18-2021, 05:10 PM
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Be happy to trade “cyclist killed on the trail” vs “cyclist killed on the road” headlines and see who has less. I rarely road ride it’s not worth it and less peaceful.
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:23 PM
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Riding bikes in LA is just dangerous, period.

The roads are certainly less safe here than in many less populated places. The MTB trails are more rugged, with more exposure, less traction, and less margin for error than in most places as well. You just need to be cognizant of where / when you ride and where / when you take risks more so than many other places.
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:38 PM
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As I evaluate the tradeoffs I see the risks I take riding off road are the result of where and how I decide to ride. If a trail is too gnarly I can avoid it or ride it VERY carefully. Sure I can overcook a corner on the road but my biggest risk comes from inattentive drivers and I have no control over them. I never even saw the last guy who hit me with his car,
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Old 04-18-2021, 06:02 PM
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:31 PM
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Insulting patients seems like a poor bedside manner for a pbysician.
It is as a matter of fact.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:47 PM
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I crash way more mountain biking. In fact, I think if you're not on the ground every so often, you're probably not challenging yourself. But zero of my dozens of mountain bike crashes have put me in the hospital , while 2 out of 3 road crashes have. Higher speeds, harder surfaces, 2 ton projectiles everywhere. I will restore my soul on the singletrack, thank you.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:54 PM
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I crash way more mountain biking. In fact, I think if you're not on the ground every so often, you're probably not challenging yourself.

I dont really understand this way of thinking. Why do I need to "challenge" myself? I like XC riding and climbing and I pick my way through dangerous stuff at a speed I deem responsible. I am not into DH and I am not some dumb jock out there trying to prove something to someone who doesnt care...so explain this line of thinking to me? It isnt like skateboarding or snowboarding where this is a specific trick I am willing to slam for to learn, but then will ideally always have. It's just going faster in a far more dangerous situation.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:56 PM
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Be happy to trade “cyclist killed on the trail” vs “cyclist killed on the road” headlines and see who has less. I rarely road ride it’s not worth it and less peaceful.

If a cyclist dies in the forest does anyone notice? And did it really happen?

Ditto the road, I suspect.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:05 PM
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If a cyclist dies in the forest does anyone notice? And did it really happen?

Ditto the road, I suspect.
Well played. I think if a cyclist dies on the road it’s called an “accident”
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:08 PM
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Well played. I think is a cyclist dies on the road it’s called and “accident”
Yeah. It's a sad truth.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:13 PM
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I dont really understand this way of thinking. Why do I need to "challenge" myself? I like XC riding and climbing and I pick my way through dangerous stuff at a speed I deem responsible. I am not into DH and I am not some dumb jock out there trying to prove something to someone who doesnt care...so explain this line of thinking to me? It isnt like skateboarding or snowboarding where this is a specific trick I am willing to slam for to learn, but then will ideally always have. It's just going faster in a far more dangerous situation.
I like developing skills and pushing myself, for me, no-one else. Riding the same corners faster. Finding new lines. Sessioning a techy step-up until I get it. Most of my falls are tech climbing, almost never at speed. That's me. You do you.

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