What’s best small city in Northeast for bikes?

[gdw]

Originally Posted by ripvanrando

Virginia is the southern most part of the Northeast.

Virginia is in the Northeast? Blasphemy! Some of the statues may have been removed but that does not make it a northern state. Pennsylvania is in the Northeast and has milder weather than New York and New England. Check out Lancaster, Hershey, and some of the larger towns in the southern part of the state.

[Mr. Pink]

Yeah, Robert E. Lee stirs in his grave.

[reuben]

Originally Posted by gdw

Virginia is in the Northeast?

IMHO VA is in the midatlantic, but I'm sure that it has some fine cycling.

[ripvanrando]

How's a flashcard reference

https://www.proprofsflashcards.com/c...their-capitals

Isn't the Northeast comprised of the original 13 states? Which includes Virginia. It is New England and Midlantic?

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org..._United_States

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by ripvanrando

How's a flashcard reference

https://www.proprofsflashcards.com/c...their-capitals

Isn't the Northeast comprised of the original 13 states? Which includes Virginia. It is New England and Midlantic?

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org..._United_States

Colloquially, people can call define "northeast" however they want, but the Census Bureau region is defined as ME, NH, MA, RI, VT, CT, NY, PA, and NJ, with the latter 3 being the mid-atlantic sub-region.

Also, the 13 original states went as far south as Georgia, so really has no relevance for defining "Northeast."

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by prototoast

Colloquially, people can call define "northeast" however they want, but the Census Bureau region is defined as ME, NH, MA, RI, VT, CT, NY, PA, and NJ, with the latter 3 being the mid-atlantic sub-region.

I'd always heard that the boundary between "North" and "South" was (still) the Mason-Dixon Line, so ^^^this definition feels right to me.

fwiw there is nothing about Virginia that feels like the Northeast to me. Maryland otoh...

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[.RJ]

Originally Posted by gdw

Virginia is in the Northeast?

Certainly not. Not even close, says the virginia guy currently sitting in vermont...

[veloduffer]

How about Skillman/Hopewell NJ? Lots of rural areas but close to Lambertville, New Hope PA, and Princeton - all towns with lots of galleries and food. Hunterdon County just north has lots of gravel (Hell of Hunterdon is one such ride). Plus the Delaware & Raritan Canal is 77 miles of flat riding along the river going to New Brunswick and Princeton (many parts you can ride on either the NJ or PA side).

[red7]

I live in Amherst, MA, and the riding is terrific. Jobs are hard to come by if you aren't employed by the Five Colleges or working remotely.

I also used to live in Princeton. That riding is good, too. Not at the same level, though if you like dirt roads, rides where you may see only a handful of cars, and mountain biking. No question you have more options here.

[Ralph]

If retired, and moving to NE, I might think the best state for riding is one with no state income tax. I believe NH is only one.

[Louis]

Originally Posted by Ralph

If retired, and moving to NE, I might think the best state for riding is one with no state income tax. I believe NH is only one.

But Ralph, there's more to living and riding than whether or not you have to pay income tax. Weather, for instance, can be significantly different in NH vs points south, and that has a huge effect on riding. Plus, those taxes do help maintain the roads we ride on.

[zennmotion]

Imagonnago all opinionated. I've livee or spent significant periods of time living, riding and racing in Burlington, Brattleboro, Gettysburg (not Harrisburg but close enough), State College...

And.

Ithaca NY. Which for riding and quality of life beats all of them. We won't discuss the weather, which, well, we're discussing the NE so the differences are incremental unless you put Skiing into the equation, then you want New England, the further North the better. But Ithaca has the lakes, the hills and if you want to avoid the hills lots of quiet roads between that are flat or gentle rolling, often in Amish country or among the vineyards. Ithaca is a college town, economy is based on higher education, so culture. Flip side, lots of well educated people who come for a degree and never leave, so a pretty competitive job market if you don't come with a job or imminent retirement. But as a place to live with a remote/WFH gig, it's a pretty nice place to live. When it's not raining. Or snowing, or both at the same time. But like everywhere, climate change is a thing, and Ithaca may actually be on a positive trajectory with shorter, warmer, dryer winters. Did I mention the riding though? Unsurpassed in the NE IMHO. Car-free smooth pavement everywhere with views and waterfalls and cows and lakes and lots of maintained gravel, roadie heaven. I'm considering moving back for the roads and I'm in NorCal FFS

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by prototoast

Colloquially, people can call define "northeast" however they want, but the Census Bureau region is defined as ME, NH, MA, RI, VT, CT, NY, PA, and NJ, with the latter 3 being the mid-atlantic sub-region.

Also, the 13 original states went as far south as Georgia, so really has no relevance for defining "Northeast."

I agree with that map; with the notable exception of Texas. Texas is not part of any region, it's just texas.

Calling Virginia the "Northeast" is ridiculous.

[Kingson]

Originally Posted by Buzz Killington

Kingston, NY

i'm surprised this suggestion hasn't gone viral.

[wombatspeed]

Originally Posted by zennmotion

Imagonnago all opinionated. I've livee or spent significant periods of time living, riding and racing in Burlington, Brattleboro, Gettysburg (not Harrisburg but close enough), State College...

And.

Ithaca NY. Which for riding and quality of life beats all of them. We won't discuss the weather, which, well, we're discussing the NE so the differences are incremental unless you put Skiing into the equation, then you want New England, the further North the better. But Ithaca has the lakes, the hills and if you want to avoid the hills lots of quiet roads between that are flat or gentle rolling, often in Amish country or among the vineyards. Ithaca is a college town, economy is based on higher education, so culture. Flip side, lots of well educated people who come for a degree and never leave, so a pretty competitive job market if you don't come with a job or imminent retirement. But as a place to live with a remote/WFH gig, it's a pretty nice place to live. When it's not raining. Or snowing, or both at the same time. But like everywhere, climate change is a thing, and Ithaca may actually be on a positive trajectory with shorter, warmer, dryer winters. Did I mention the riding though? Unsurpassed in the NE IMHO. Car-free smooth pavement everywhere with views and waterfalls and cows and lakes and lots of maintained gravel, roadie heaven. I'm considering moving back for the roads and I'm in NorCal FFS

What he said. Ithaca is for road biking what Colorado is for mountain biking.


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