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I dont know, ive seen a few builds getting closer to hard tail territory, but id have to ride that type of geo first, seems sluggish from afar.
if you enjoy being in road bike positions, does it get more efficient for gravel? maybe a slightly more upright version to avoid going over the bars or getting weight too far over the front wheel. what helps with rear wheel traction on 20% plus climbs? just tire volume, or is there a geo solution as well? longer or shorter stays? slacker front end? i can still find rim brake tubular wheels, im sure any thru axle standard will be around for at least the next 5 years, and then we buy a new bike anyway, right? |
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Preamble: Everyone who wants to be a smartarse says "every existing road bike is already a gravel bike" cause you can ride road bikes on gravel. Yeah. But then by the same logic... every mountain bike is a road bike because hoards of people ride mountain bikes on the pavement... so it's maybe not so clever.
My point: A gravel bike is a road bike with big tire clearance, with the attention taken away from aero speed and put toward mixed surface riding. But it's still a "road" bike in my eyes anyway YMMV. So, I don't want my gravel bike, current or future, to become a mountain bike in terms of geo and features (suspension) etc. I want my gravel bike to be as close to a road bike as it can be, while still being able to handle big tires (700x40's+) and have lots of mounting points etc. because I still ride that bike primarily on the "roads" - many paved, many not. Offroad happens (ie. paths, single track, technical stuff, roots etc.) but with much lesser frequency - I want a bike for the 80% and I'll underbike the other 20%
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Me, if I were designing a gravel bike, I'd be designing it for the vast network of forest service roads out here in the Western US. So I'd start with NORBA-era geometry, like a 71/73 head/seat tube angles. Then I'd want a little bit of suspension, so I'd go with a Lauf fork and a Canyon or Cirrus Bodyfloat seatpost. The Lauf is through-axle disc brake, so you might as well do that front and rear.
But I wouldn't design it for singletrack or big drops. That's another style of bike, in my opinion. |
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I echo everyone who says it's guided by what you want out of the experience.
My dirt roadie use case actually divides between my Seven, essentially a road bike that doesn't care if the road turns to dirt, and my BMC Monstercross with Jones bars, essentially a 2003 29er. Dirt is a spectrum, figure out the way you ride your bike and design around that... |
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