scam again? - a for sale PSA I posted re: ebay: 2023 Specialized Turbo Creo Sworks

[eddief]

The weight of shipping carton was 21 lbs. Pretty light for a packaged ebike.

Originally Posted by Kyle h

Thinking about this more, are package weight and dimensions shown on the tracking info? If so, seems easy to dispute that a bike didn’t weigh 4# and ship in a 12x12 box…

[truth]

The Ebay listing says the auction was ended.

How did your friend pay? It wouldn't have been through winning an auction. Did the seller offer to cancel the auction and sell it on the side for less money?

Did the payment go through ebay (with an invoice sent or a winning auction or buy it now) or straight through paypal?

If the purchase was straight through paypal was it F&F or goods and services?

I'm sorry your friend went through this and hope he can get his money back.

[Kyle h]

Originally Posted by eddief

The weight of shipping carton was 21 lbs. Pretty light for a packaged ebike.

Given that Spec states 27# weight, I think he has an argument there.

[nmrt]

The seller can easily print a label for 21 lb (or 27 lb for that matter) and put in a 8.2 microgram feather in the box.

Originally Posted by Kyle h

Given that Spec states 27# weight, I think he has an argument there.

[Cyzemup]

Originally Posted by yinzerniner

I had this happen to me, it's a pretty common occurrence a little while back, maybe regaining populartiy now. Got full refund both times, proved that tracking was not valid.

Basically, seller ships any item to a wrong address in the town of the buyer. Doesn't matter what it is, just shows that any item was delivered in/at mailbox to the correct town and/or zip so that ebay's system shows that the item was delivered. Item can be from anywhere, as long as the tracking number is valid through a shipping company and it went to the correct town.

See posts below for info on how it works:
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Shippi...6825424/page/2
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Buying.../td-p/32595046

same thing happened to me on Pinkbike. It was a pita to get documentation from UPS to prove to Paypal I didn't live at the address where the said package was delivered to. You should be able to get information as to where it was delivered at and if it wasn't delivered to your friends address they can get a refund from ebay. Make sure you keep all documentation via email to prove to ebay. Very annoying to get scammed. Hope your friend can get their money back

[eddief]

still no real clue about the process the seller used but at least my friend was made whole somehow by ebay.

[eddief]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15545998822...Bk9SR7iym_jjYQ

[fmradio516]

Originally Posted by eddief

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15545998822...Bk9SR7iym_jjYQ

It looks like the page isnt working. Any other link??

[eddief]

by sending him a message.

Originally Posted by fmradio516

It looks like the page isnt working. Any other link??

[fmradio516]

Originally Posted by eddief

by sending him a message.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by eddief

still no real clue about the process the seller used but at least my friend was made whole somehow by ebay.

Good deal and not to point fingers, but the whole, 'if it looks to good to be true....etc'...for yer buddy.

[eddief]

pretty sure this is a different seller ID selling the same bike at a too good to be true price. Seems weird some more:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13454001049...&segname=11051

I messaged the seller and requested serial number.

His reply:

cardinalsfan6175:
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Dear
I regret that the product is not currently in stock, when the customer purchases it will be sent directly to the supplier. Before sending goods to customers, I will take a photo of the serial number and sales invoice for my customer.
Best regards
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[1Dollar93]

The studio photos of an item usually are enough to not pass the smell test. I’m sorry your friend got hooked on a scam, hope he has recourse.

[eddief]

watch out.

Originally Posted by 1Dollar93

The studio photos of an item usually are enough to not pass the smell test. I’m sorry your friend got hooked on a scam, hope he has recourse.

[madsciencenow]

I sincerely hope your friend gets this situation remedied. The moral of this story for me personally is that ebay is dead for purchases of more than a few $$.