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- I don't think I have ever seen anyone refer to Rome or Caley as 'industry fat'. - online cycling media is useless just like online media for most any hobby or sport is useless. There is no shortage of online media for everything. CT and Nerd Alert are entertaining and informative. Obviously not critical to the existence of mankind, but also not useless. Nerd Alert has pushed back hard on many current trends and has asked critical questions to those who have designed and market a lot of this tech during interviews. Doesn't seem useless to me. - podcasts weren't their only business. It was just part of the overall Cycling Tips platform. Your comments seem to suggest podcasting was everything. |
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Buy in where these people go next, or contact them yourself and fund them directly. Working for a corporation in current year within the media and content generation space is asking for zero job security and poor ownership of [your] intellectual property. |
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https://cyclingtips.com/2022/06/our-...cle-day-award/ Again, you clearly know nothing about CT and Iain Treloar. Do better next time. |
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Most of my classmates loathed him. Not me. I loved the dude. He was the embodiment of the hard living hard drinking ink stained wretch from the middle of last century. I got a kick out of him. |
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Isn't The Radavist part of the Outside cabal? Over the last several months I've really grown to enjoy their site.
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No Proscloset is their business partners
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Also this tweet from Outside CEO allstaff email is pretty telling. Sounds like they were bleeding and throwing money into failed projects cough*NFTs*cough and trying to market "digital goods". Look at outsides nft market, its basically dead https://www.outside.io/ https://twitter.com/ari_schneider/st...86302914174976
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IG sucks and it’s gone now, but it was something to the effect of his right arm being cut off. |
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Lots of gnashing of teeth in this thread, not a lot of stepping up to support the creators you guys seem to love. So it goes, as it's always gone. If James Huang leaves and goes self-funded I'll be first in line to support him with cash, and not just kind words online. "Do better" indeed. |
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I am not sure that this is the case, I and I am sure many others on this board joined CT as paying members exactly because we like and appreciate what they were doing over there, doing ACTUAL cycling journalism both on the website and the podcast.
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It is up to us, as readers to determine whether or not they are correct. Personally, as current but not future CT subscriber, I went out of my way to read every Dave Rome article and avoid every Johnny Long article. Maybe I am an outlier and really the junior writers drove more traffic and subscriptions, but I am not convinced that is the case. If we look at Senior Management at Outside, don't actually seem to be particularly good at what they do. They dumped a ton of money into NFTs which, I'm sure 95% of us would have thought was a bad idea at the time. They also pushed publications like velonews onto the "Outside Feed" which made absolutely no sense (go to velonews.com during the Tour de France and the top post is some lifestyle piece about yoga and you start to realize that they are running that publication into the ground). The only savvy business move they ever made was to flagrantly violate The Clayton Act to eliminate a significant portion of their competition.
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Well they kept James Huang right? I don't expect him to be paid like a junior writer.
We technically don't know anything here, just because we like certain personality does not mean they were good for the company. There may be friction, and there may be disagreements with the direction of the company. Who knows. All I can do is wish them best of luck and hopefully I see them pop up soon cause they are certainly knowledgeable and entertaining. |
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Yep. I've been tithing to them for years..
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I'll add to the chorus of disappointment. CT was the first cycling news site I paid for, because they had something approaching journalism in a landscape of industry PR mouthpieces.
I hope they get the band back together. Or perhaps join inrng and build that up. |
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