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So just to make it clear, I have no foot issues other than a high arch and while the current insoles are a big improvement on odd days I can still get some hot spots at the front of my foot, which makes me think the arch doesn't get enough support. So having considered the G8 for a while, 150 for the Retul footbeds, which is the price if added to the bike fit, is not much more than the G8s. Another plus for the retul would be durability vs G8.
Considered getting the custom orthotics, but wasn't convinced would make much sense unless I got them from a podiatrist who knows cycling. |
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The second thing is the understanding that your feet expand/splay as they age. The connective tissue in the feet break down no different, or likely more because of the weight that they bear, than other parts of our bodies. They tend to widen the most. I know a gentleman (Paul Marchese - Marchese Racing LLC, google and read) that makes speed skating boots for Olympic medalist skaters and is now experimenting with custom cycling shoes. A young man and former athlete of his that works for him and rides with our group was explaining the logic behind much of this to me and urging me to consider a pair of their shoes. The last thing I would say is to reach out to Paceline member/sponsor Don Lamson. He makes custom shoes and could likely lend much more insight than anyone else. I hope you figure it out. |
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I'm actually doing PT at this point to try and be rid of them for good. Very interesting to do the exercises and kind of shocking no one had ever wanted me to do them. All these years and it was never suggested. And I clearly have asymmetric challenges between the two feet when I do them.
Has anyone actually measured the way your foot moves and provided any basis for what the orthotic is supposed to do? What does a static mold or laser scan of your foot in one position actually do to get it right? Our feet move, if the orthotic is a fixed shape which position of your foot does it actually work for? If they want you to put a certain amount of weight on it, how much is right? (Never had anyone ever have any ability to quantify that when they had me do it.) If you pronate X amount, how much of that is the Orthotic supposed to correct? If you have Plantar Fasciitis, how much does the orthotic need to support you to fix that? No one can ever say why they think the arch needs to be 1cm higher or lower than than the other guy. Some methodologies want the peak of the arch further back, others want it further forward. The previous two pairs they wanted differing corrections in my 2 feet. The most recent time they said no, they should be more symmetrical. For many years I had pairs where they thought I should have a little pad under the first metatarsal. Most recent pairs they think I don't need that. There has never been any obvious rationale behind this, it's always just "I know better than the last person you saw." It's like the same thing as the crusty rude old bike fitter saying something different than the other bike fitters and when you ask why he says you need to trust him cause 20 years ago he fit someone that went pro. There have been periods I was relatively happy, but always periods where I'm very unsatisfied with the whole thing. |
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As a fitter, G8's have been my insole of choice. If someone requires more substantial/firm arch support, I simply apply polly plastics to the G8 arch pieces to make them rigid.
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If you want to try some G8s I have a pair that I ended up not needing and can pass them along for a good price. They are cut down to 44mm but are otherwise unused except for testing on the trainer. PM me if interested.
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Got the bike fit done today (so close to what I had on my current bike, good to have the position validated. Some numbers ended up literally the same or within 2-3mm, the fitter was dumbstruck when he measured my bike at the end) and got the insoles. I did a 90 min workout after I got home, of course had them in my shoes during the fit and so far they feel sublime!
Will have to see how my feet feel after at least a 4 hours ride to get a proper idea though. Appreciate the offer @CTracer, also I wear 45 shoes so it would have been a bit short. |
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So today I did a long ride (6.5hrs) and I can say this is the best 150$ I've ever spent on a bike related purchase.
It was the first time I did not think about my feet at all during such a long ride, except when I remembered that I didn't think about my feet about 3 hours into the ride :-P. What a wonderful feeling!!!!! |
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Also....I ride my bikes with saddle about 3/8-1/2" lower than bike fitter wanted. I may have been able to ride stronger their way but am more comfortable my way. Less butt pain. |
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