Frame builder rec - Page 4

gomango · #46 11-26-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron O

Is Goodrich still in business? I think he'd be of interest.

Last time I talked to Curt he was at HED.

We have some mutual friends.

Should I see what's up?

FWIW

I love my Kvales, but Curt's bikes are outstanding as well.

If I didn't cough up big bucks for my Weigle last year, I'd bug him (CG) to grab a torch.

I see his bikes around the Twin Cities fairly often and they are a treat.

OtayBW · #47 11-26-2019, 05:27 PM

Holy Cow....

I was also struck by the demographic comment right off as well.
I tend to think that if this guy knows such much about bikes and exactly what he is or is not looking for, then I'd cut him loose and just let him graze in his own pasture (graze being a euphemism...)

pdmtong · #48 11-26-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by parris

I'm with Zen on this one. What does he really mean by demographic background? It just seems like an odd question. I could be way off but is he looking for a particular gender, age, race, etc etc etc? If he is what does that really have to do with the quality of a frame builders work?
How long has he been riding for?

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Originally Posted by Blue Jays

I am still blown-away that in 2019 the person is actually considering the framebuilder's race, ethnicity, and heritage as a part of the decision in awarding a commission to a highly-skilled artisan.

I doubt it is the primary criteria but if a choice among perceived equals, the guy might want to give the business based on some affinity or bias to that group.

Aaron O · #49 11-26-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zennmotion

Repeating myself and others- take him over to Bilenky's shop because it's local, it would be fun for both of you. See how the sausage is made. Steve is enough of a unique free thinker, I could see chemistry. Then go visit Chris B in Bmore. Neither of these guys are particularly locked in to a narrow vision of a bike. It would be so much better than looking at the interwebs. You're both overthinking it.

I’ll repeat as well (for the third time, can you hear me in the back?)...

I am familiar with bilenky...he’s familiar with bilenky. He’s not interested, and if you’re actually familiar with his work and preferences, this should not be a surprise. You can stop repeating yourself.

zennmotion · #50 11-26-2019, 05:39 PM

Yep. got it. thanks. good luck

Aaron O · #51 11-26-2019, 05:40 PM

My opinion - Chapman is easily among my faves working today...I showed him chapman’s booth, he was disinterested.

Chapman builds some really awesome stuff, and if we didn’t have Hanford here, I’d give him a longggg look.

Aaron O · #52 11-26-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gomango

Last time I talked to Curt he was at HED.

We have some mutual friends.

Should I see what's up?

FWIW

I love my Kvales, but Curt's bikes are outstanding as well.

If I didn't cough up big bucks for my Weigle last year, I'd bug him (CG) to grab a torch.

I see his bikes around the Twin Cities fairly often and they are a treat.

Thanks GMG, appreciate the offer, but my gut says nahhh. I think there are some good points here:

I offered my advice.

He has his own ideas.

Move on.

I hope he picks Bishop - I thought the other person he was looking at was not...well...who I’d pick. I’ve offered up many builders (I did send horse based in this thread), and he can do what he wants.

likebikes · #53 11-26-2019, 05:47 PM

between this thread and the one with the "bicycle salesman" (18 years eperience!) concerned that $11 is too much for a kickstand install,

just wow.

wow

my mouth is literally agape

zennmotion · #54 11-26-2019, 05:49 PM

I'm picturing a Yamaguchi aesthetic except he's not East Coast.

Aaron O · #55 11-26-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XXtwindad

BTW, you never did articulate what was meant by "diverse background." Would your friend consider a framebuilder's ethnicity or gender over reputation? I'm still curious. In and of itself, diversity in the framebuilding world is an interesting conversation to have.

I didn’t answer because the thread was already getting negative, and I don’t want to speak for him when it invariably becomes a debate.

Like most here, my first priority is how many frames have you built? How did you learn? He thinks that frame building is simpler than I think it is, and he thinks I’ve complicated it and made it sound like brain surgery.

Aaron O · #56 11-26-2019, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zennmotion

I'm picturing a Yamaguchi aesthetic except he's not East Coast.

He actually did ask me about him. His stuff looks good, I don’t know him well.

This is somewhat embarrassing...when I responded to him, I confused him with Nagasawa.

rallizes · #57 11-26-2019, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by likebikes

between this thread and the one with the "bicycle salesman" (18 years eperience!) concerned that $11 is too much for a kickstand install,

just wow.

wow

my mouth is literally agape

ok

zennmotion · #58 11-26-2019, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron O

He actually did ask me about him. His stuff looks good, I don’t know him well.

This is somewhat embarrassing...when I responded to him, I confused him with Nagasawa.

I would saw off my weaker leg for a Nagasawa road frame- good luck with that.

Did Tom Oswald in Mansfield PA hit your radar? Not a big web presence but he's been building for quite a few years, and I've seen some of his frames, I think they're quite nice and some may fit the "bauhaus" thing I think you're looking for, his website shows MTBs and gravel things but the bikes I've seen were fillet brazed roadies, simple and clean in muted colors.

gomango · #59 11-26-2019, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron O

Thanks GMG, appreciate the offer, but my gut says nahhh. I think there are some good points here:

I offered my advice.

He has his own ideas.

Move on.

I hope he picks Bishop - I thought the other person he was looking at was not...well...who I’d pick. I’ve offered up many builders (I did send horse based in this thread), and he can do what he wants.

hah, no worries.

Bishop is a great choice.

Enjoy the season.

g

FlashUNC · #60 11-26-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron O

He actually did ask me about him. His stuff looks good, I don’t know him well.

This is somewhat embarrassing...when I responded to him, I confused him with Nagasawa.

Yamaguchi builds amazing stuff.

And if he's willing to waive the Northeast requirement, his options open up wayyyyy wider.

If he's specific and a bit, um, unique, Cheribum is another one to look at.