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What's the wear on a 9? More wear = more maintenance = more chances for the mechanic to make a mistake when they've got 20 guys riding 20k km/yr or something in all conditions.
That's just the ridiculousness of it though, even the 50/34 compact is stupid low 99% of the time if you're 140-160lbs and you have a 400w FTP. The 50 is stupid for me 99% of the time on my fast road bike (hence why I've never run one for an extended period.) I would only like it on days where I happened to climb one of the handful of multi-mile climbs in the northeastern US that average > 10% for miles on end. (Most of those are toll roads that you can only ride during hill climbs.) You only see them use the 34/50 for the most epic of mountain climbs on the longest days in the longest tours, and even then it's only the guys who like to spin like crazy. 1X is stupid for these guys even if it has plenty of low and high range if it requires more swapping out of parts for different days. My guess is they will swap out more often than a recreational rider since they won't need the range on the flatter days and riding with the wide range cassette will be really annoying on those days since they'll not use 3-4 of the cogs and then still be stuck with huge jumps between the cogs. |
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failures during R&D happen. and R&D in bike racing happens. the only issue I see here is the team slagging the sponsors; that's weak and un-pro to me. you're paid to do a job. some of that pay comes from the sponsors. be nice to 'em. Aqua Sport aren't the highest profile team. so yeah, they get to be more of lab rats than other teams do. when you've barely got enough money to eat, don't sh*t in your own Cheerios.
someone posted the photo of Wout dropping a chain at CX world championships 2015. he didn't go after Sram after that; clearly stated the issue was his fault and his other crashes kept him out of the win anyway. this after the Belgian media assaulted him and his team for changing bikes and going to 1X only a week before the world championships. but that's the pro thing to do; stand by your sponsor. (although last year he semi-publicly griped about how terrible the Felt bikes they were on were; so he's no angel either...) |
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Two cents here from an old slow rider:
I have SRAM 1x11 on my FS29er and after over 2-1/2 years of regular riding I've dropped a chain twice. No chain keeper, but NW chainring and clutch derailleur. Shifting is very reliable. I just replaced the worn aluminum 42T large cog with an aftermarket 44T cog and the shifting in and out of that cog is slightly less smooth than with the stock cog. I converted my CAAD10 for an experiment to 1x11, in this case Shimano 6800 shifters, Ultegra R8000 rear derailleur, and Ultegra 11-34 cassette. 40T NW chainring, I think it's a Wolftooth. It shifts fine, but not as nicely as the SRAM on the MTB, and I've been attributing that to considerably shorter chainstays on the road bike. And I could be completely wrong... |
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If there was a weird thing with his combo they wouldn't have necessarily had a chance to figure it out in a week, and if there was some change in how he needed to ride/shift he wouldn't have had time to necessarily get that to the point where it was automatic. A lot of this stuff is not really about SRAM quality.. it's about trying too may new things/combinations at the same time when your paycheck depends on the equipment just "disappearing". |
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But when the drag on a smaller sprocket is a waste of watts (marginal gains and all that) and other teams are going bigger rings with bigger sprockets, there must be questions to ask. I did suspect that when the problems started they would have thrown the mechanic under the bus.
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Marketing, IMHO...I don't see that 1by For The Road answers any question, solves and problem. IMHO, of course..
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It Still Works
1X still works for some consumers as you have read from users on this board. Whether or not it was right for a race tea, over specific terrain is another question. I think the answer to that question was no.
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I'm sure all my buddies with piles of dead first gen Di2 derailleurs would disagree. SRAM has certainly dropped the ball in spectacular fashion with some of their products. So has Shimano, though probably to a lesser extent. But they make plenty of killer products that stand up to abuse.
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Certainly was my experience with early SRAM stuff, but the eTap I've been using through all sorts of crap for nigh on a year now has been bullet-proof thus far.
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