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As of this morning. USA
188,247 reported as infected, 3912 deaths-2.08%
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scary times. The ramp up will probably happen in late April. Gets worse before it gets better. And then there will be second wave. https://www.sootoday.com/global-news...canada-2199249 practice social distancing and wearing a mask.
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difference in the mild versus NO symptoms
most reports have shown only 15-20% of those infected are ill enough to "care" and go to the doctor. I used 20%. The 25% with NO symptoms are the most dangerous for spreading it. If we all act as if anyone MAY have it, we will make a real difference.
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1) is there a consensus on how long a person who has this is contagious? 2) is there definitive answer on if you definitely (tested) had it, and recovered - you should be good to go right? go ahead and live your life because you cant get it or give it any more? true?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEr4rmjwd0g
Perspectives on the Pandemic with Dr. John Ioannidis Posting this again for those who didn't see it in the other thread. All actions have consequences. We are undergoing a mass experiment in conducting social and public-health policy not based on facts or science but on media frenzy and political weather-forecasting. We need science and hard reasoning to drive the crucial decisions being made. Both are in shorter supply these days than TP and Lysol. An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. Let's start a ticker on CNN for those deaths. Let's tell every individual story. Let's talk about the social irresponsibility of stores selling a drug that kills so many people every year and shame anyone who causes the use of alcohol to spread. At least 2.8 million adults die each year as a result of being overweight or obese (globally). The cure invoked right now may be worse than the disease and may kill more people and ruin more lives than it will save. That may be true, it may not. But we need the experts to do the work and tell us - that is what living in a global society is all about. These questions are too big for our caveman brains to process unless we've spent a lifetime doing so. We are being lead by the people who have spent a lifetime learning how to manipulate us for profit and political power. It's time to instead put the scientists in charge, trust them and act accordingly. I'll still be putting a makeshift mask on later when I leave the house/apartment - not so much for my own safety, but because the sooner we normalize the wearing of masks, the sooner we can start to turn down the panic meter and realize that we need to get back to living our lives and running our society while taking due precautions - living healthy, boosting our immunity with good food and exercise, washing up before eating, etc. |
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i thought there is a possibility of reinfection after you gone through it. Similar to the flu. here's a link to the CDC FAQ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/faq.html
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1 - Believed to be 7-15 days. But even that number isn't 100% solid since so many people are asymptomatic. And even "recovered" people could possibly still be carriers. Source: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...after-recovery 2 - Since the virus is so new it's not clear whether recovered people are fully immune. But there have been a few cases of repeat infections. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...after-covid19/ |
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In any case she is still way way way more morbid about this. She would laugh at 3% of the population infected... she thinks it's going to be at least 10x more of us infected. She is 100% of the mentality that "it's just as bad everywhere else as NYC and you're just behind on the curve and don't know it yet." Exactly what Governor Cuomo has been saying. I hope she's wrong. I like these 3% type numbers way better. And there are no pictures from most areas of the US with stupidity like the crowds in NYC that keep showing up in the news. I really want to be onboard with the idea that density + stupidity + late action in NYC is a different set of variables than the rest of the country. A lot of models are showing the rest of the states will not be as bad as NY. I really want to believe social distancing didn't work/wasn't severe enough/was too late around NYC. Last edited by benb; 04-01-2020 at 10:38 AM. |
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Some potential issues--physical: we do not know if the lung changes 2/2 COVID19 fully reverse or cause long term issues. Same goes for those who develop cardiomyopathy. Psychological--on average, 10-20% of individuals in ICUs report subsequent PTSD related to hospitalization. Much higher with PTSD symptoms. This has long term consequences for the patient, families, etc. For those who are older or who have comorbidities, an infection just isn't an infection. An infection is often the thing that leads to using up what functional reserves someone has. That means needing more help at home, worsening underlying disease status, needing rehab or transitioning to long term care, or entering a new phase of illness where things start to change more rapidly. Yes, there are immediate effects of COVID19, but most people don't need one other thing to add to the equation. |
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The thing that gets me is the uncertainty of the length of the incubation period - not so much for others who can transmit even asymptomatically - but for me!
Everytime I go out to the store for groceries (~every 5-7 days), it resets the potential incubation clock and so I sit around all week wondering if my throat is a little scratchy after that last trip, or if there is a bit of a cough starting. It's kind of an insideous 'watching'.... Paranoia strikes deep.....
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I'm hoping that what we have done in MA will make it not as severe here as in NYC. I think the early actions by the governor, state insurance companies quickly adapting to telehealth, and the healthcare system starting respiratory clinicis to unburden emergency departments, clear spaces(set up new facilities) for pts who cant return to nursing homes, etc will help. But time will tell, and we are still two weeks from projected peak here. Ugh. |
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There are very limited studies of the recovered (the sick ones who make it) as far as shedding and immunity. And almost nothing out there on the asymptomatics--there hasn't been a lot of excess capacity to look into that deeply. I'll keep checking and post what I read edit--sorry i meant to capture the original question from Angry as well vs appearing to reply only to your post Last edited by jimcav; 04-01-2020 at 10:55 AM. |
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