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Old 07-02-2020, 04:41 PM
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Why doesn't Campy make a quick link?

I'm a big fan of the Connex Quick Link and have been using it for years on my 10sp chain. I'm wondering why Campagnolo doesn't just make their own?

As an aside, does anyone know if there's a Connex Quick Link for the new Campy 12sp chains?
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:32 PM
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They haven’t been able to decide on colors for the Centaur, Potenza, Chorus, Record and Super Record versions of the quick link. I expect the Record version to be carbon and Super Record to have three slotted cutouts in the link.

Personally I am hoping for a high polished Athena version.
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:52 PM
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The Wipperman 12 chain and connex link seem to be vaporware - it's on their website, but I can't find any for sale.

A SRAM Eagle 12 quick link fits the Campy 12 chain nicely.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:14 PM
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Why doesn't Campy make a quick link?

$10 quick link vs a $225 chain tool?

You tell me.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:25 PM
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Why doesn't Campy make a quick link?

$10 quick link vs a $225 chain tool?

You tell me.
that's the cynical explanation- you beat me to it. I wonder if that is really the explanation though because for years one could use a SRAM, Wipperman, or Shimano version with no big issues.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:29 PM
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that's the cynical explanation- you beat me to it. I wonder if that is really the explanation though because for years one could use a SRAM, Wipperman, or Shimano version with no big issues.
I doubt Campagnolo could make a truly original 12s quick link and make a profit, even in their non Italian factories. There are plenty of alternatives that work fine at reasonable prices. Why bother?
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:39 PM
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Why doesn't Campy make a quick link?

$10 quick link vs a $225 chain tool?

You tell me.
Exactly. Why undercut your own business.

It's not cynical... they haven't endorsed using quick links from other component makers, at least AFAIK.

That said, I use 'em. Although I have owned a 10 spd Campy chain tool in the past, a nicely engineered and high quality tool.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure if you did the testing, a properly peened Campy factory link would be stronger than a third-party masterlink. I'm sure Campy is being "purist" about it, and opting for the most structurally robust option. Whether you actually "need" that extra robustness is open for discussion. In most cases, probably not.

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Old 07-02-2020, 08:37 PM
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Maybe the real reason is nothing else than "making to buy a new chain more often?"
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:04 PM
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Campy would have to pay fees for use since theres a patent on it.
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:44 PM
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My chains are cleaned and lubricated on-bicycle then replaced (early) when worn.
My sense is that provides quiet, predictable, and durable operation of the chain.
That said, my preference is to not use a quick-link...except in an emergency.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:08 PM
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Campy would have to pay fees for use since theres a patent on it.
The patent would have expired long ago.
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Old 07-03-2020, 04:25 AM
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Must be a slow day.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:56 AM
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I've had quick links fail and, on the Record 12s, kept getting occasional clicking noise. I ended up paying a shop $10 to peen it properly; dead silent after that. Still have the link on my 11s Chorus setup. YMMV.

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Old 07-03-2020, 05:58 AM
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I'm pretty sure if you did the testing, a properly peened Campy factory link would be stronger than a third-party masterlink. I'm sure Campy is being "purist" about it, and opting for the most structurally robust option. Whether you actually "need" that extra robustness is open for discussion. In most cases, probably not. (Yes, I'm a structural engineer, yes I've worked in the aerospace industry for multiple decades. No I don't have any data to support my contention.)
Agree..their pin system works really well and I'll bet they know there are quick links out there and even(horrors) are used on their chains.

As for a business decision to sell tools rather than quick links...righto sparky, that's it(nope)..

Valentino was once asked why Campag didn't make their cogsets shimano compatible..well, "because the ones we make are a full range and work really well".

Campagnolo had a ;quick link' way before any others, called Permalink with a rather bulky tool to install. They didn't fail but everyone 'clicked'.

This is like the other thread about, 'why doesn't Campag make tools"..and pages as to why Campag does or doesn't do this or that.

How long was it before shimano made a 'quick link'?? How about a BB30 BB? How many BB30 cranks does shimano make now?

So, I think Campag has a system that works well, that they can rely on and is applicable to 12s and the tolerances required for this really thin chain...
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