Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-29-2024, 01:16 PM
GParkes GParkes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 619
Overkill, or is it me?

Swapping my SRAM 2X crankset to 1X and need and 18"/24" ratchet and someone to hold the bike to remove crank bolt. 53 NM???? Really, does the spec need to be that high? I can't be the only one that thinks anything above 40 NM is unnecessary.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-29-2024, 01:20 PM
fmradio516 fmradio516 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 4,568
Yeppp the SRAM cranks are torqued SUPER tight.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-29-2024, 06:52 PM
.RJ .RJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NoVa
Posts: 3,305
the loctite isnt helping here. at least you got it off.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-29-2024, 09:05 PM
bikeboy1's Avatar
bikeboy1 bikeboy1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 149
Yeah I would agree anything over 40 is over the top. Campy cassette fastener comes to mind at 50nm as well. If 40 wont hold it then there is always loctite as long as we dont use the Red stuff.
In fact I cant think of too many times in the industrial setting that I have used anything over 50.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-29-2024, 09:24 PM
jds108 jds108 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Big Sky Country
Posts: 1,144
Since I just got done reinstalling a wheel on my Ram Promaster and the lug bolt spec is 145 ft lb, the 50 NM (37 ft lb) doesn't seem so excessive.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-01-2024, 06:58 AM
oldpotatoe's Avatar
oldpotatoe oldpotatoe is offline
Proud Grandpa
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Republic of Boulder, USA
Posts: 47,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by jds108 View Post
Since I just got done reinstalling a wheel on my Ram Promaster and the lug bolt spec is 145 ft lb, the 50 NM (37 ft lb) doesn't seem so excessive.
No kidding...now threads about torque that seems 'too high'......big sigh...
__________________
Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-01-2024, 07:40 AM
Red Tornado's Avatar
Red Tornado Red Tornado is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: CenTex
Posts: 1,156
IIRC the old square taper crank arm torque specs were in the 25 - 40 Nm range. I could achieve that with a standard Craftsman beam torque wrench. 50 seems a little higher than anything I ever worked on.
I never tightened cassettes to 40Nm, either. Usually stopped around 30Nm, never had one come off or get loose on it's own, but much easier to remove when I needed to.

Last edited by Red Tornado; 03-01-2024 at 07:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-01-2024, 07:53 AM
sasquatch16v sasquatch16v is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: WNY
Posts: 111
you see, because you don't have a FD anymore to drop the chain... you have to make sure the cranks are tight enough that they don't just fall off to drop the chain instead.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-01-2024, 08:02 AM
Talrand Talrand is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Tornado View Post
IIRC the old square taper crank arm torque specs were in the 25 - 40 Nm range. I could achieve that with a standard Craftsman beam torque wrench. 50 seems a little higher than anything I ever worked on.
I never tightened cassettes to 40Nm, either. Usually stopped around 30Nm, never had one come off or get loose on it's own, but much easier to remove when I needed to.
I've seen people recommend ~50Nm for alloy body HG cassettes to limit the 'bite marks' steel cogs can make. Using steel HG bodies I haven't tried it, but a lot of WW users said it helped them and did not cause other issues.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-01-2024, 08:07 AM
pdonk pdonk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 416
Posts: 2,964
At least it is not the 120 NM of a frameworks crank.

https://escapecollective.com/wp-cont...ry-tour-24.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-01-2024, 08:23 AM
Dave Dave is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Loveland, CO
Posts: 5,927
I use Shimano cranks on my AXS drivetrains. Much easier to deal with.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-01-2024, 08:28 AM
benb benb is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Eastern MA
Posts: 9,952
And yet we have all complained about cranks or BBs coming loose or making noise.

Not going to disagree with any complaints about SRAM cranksets really though.

I had a bike built up XT at the shop many years ago and raced it the very next day and the cranks came lose in the race... Luckily they didn't completely fall off..
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-01-2024, 11:24 AM
GParkes GParkes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 619
Smile

I'm just flabbergasted, though. The GXP cranksets had torque specs in the 15 NM range, or thereabouts if I recall. How did they get from that to 53??? Anyway, just a vent....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-01-2024, 11:30 AM
.RJ .RJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NoVa
Posts: 3,305
Quote:
Originally Posted by GParkes View Post
I'm just flabbergasted, though. The GXP cranksets had torque specs in the 15 NM range, or thereabouts if I recall. How did they get from that to 53??? Anyway, just a vent....
GXP cranks were in the similar (50+) Range. No need to go that far though, IMO.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.