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I think they use stiffer tubes on 60cm and up - but who knows what this one was built with..?
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I think so. May be custom geometry. TPC had it listed as a 22cm headtube, 60cm toptube, and the 73.5/72.5 angles. They are often off a bit though. A 62cm classic Calfee geometry would have those angles and a 59.3 TT with a 20cm headtube. I didn't have my tape measure with me when unboxing. Guess I'll find out when I start building!
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20 YO Tetra pro
Put in 81 road/gravel miles in NW NJ yesterday on my 20 YO Tetra P that was originally sold out of Vecchios and purchased from the Boulder Craigslist.
FWIW the 2017 Tarmac stayed home as the Calfee is generally preferred. Thinking about sending it to Calfee for a inspection and paint, but I can't bare to part with it for too long. |
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My 20 yo Tetra is still my main ride. I've been on more modern bikes to see what I'm missing, but haven't found another CF bike to lure me away yet. I thought I was having some problems with my frame a few years ago, but it just turned out to be a bulge in the rear tire.
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Dragonfly and then the other frames had a lot of production issues mid-2000's and despite only being 30 miles from the factory just about every LBS around here dropped him. The manta is pretty cool - it works - but $$$ NO ONE around here rides Calfee anymore, unless it is a tandem. |
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Nice bikes but why does it matter if your bike gets props here or anywhere else on the internet? If you have one and you like it that's all that should really matter!
I don't know why you would compare these to a Trek or a Giant made in Taiwan and be concerned about the Trek/Giant being higher performance. The whole lugged construction with CF was never a high tech or desirable way to make frames for any reason except ease of making custom frames.... the march forward with CF frames has basically been the big companies who primarily manufacture in Taiwan steadily figuring out how to mold the CF frames out of fewer and fewer pieces to take ever more advantage of the properties of carbon. The complete opposite of the lugged construction. Lugged construction is great for custom.. but if the stock bike from overseas fits you well the lugged custom bike is only an upgrade if you like having a less common bike. (You could argue lugged CF frames were what brought Serotta to its knees IMO.) Definitely it's always regional with these smaller companies. We don't see many Calfee's here in the Boston area. But you'll see a Seven almost ever day you go for a ride... cause Seven is here. Most of us if we're going to buy from a small regional company that customizes stuff it makes way more sense to stay local, the advantages are too large. |
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You might be right, but you might be wrong. There's probably no one at the little companies even keeping count, and the sample size is too low. And besides.. the bikes from the little companies likely don't get treated as roughly. They're expensive and precious, hard to replace, and probably bought by older clientele that doesn't buy them for racing and takes better care of them. Yes I've ridden and owned a bunch of CF bikes of various construction and IMO there's no comparison.. the stuff monocoque stuff has always been considerably better controlling for fit. I pretty much always walked away with the bike with fewer molded parts when it came down to 2 bikes that both worked on geometry. "Better" is super subjective anyway. Probably fine to say a particular Calfee (surely they're all different) was more comfortable/compliant than a Tarmac but probably ridiculous if you compared it to a Domane. And then everything comes down to which of those 3 bikes fit you best anyway. If the Calfee is custom made for you and you need custom fit it's going to seem better in every variable just cause the fit makes such a drastic difference compared to most of the stuff bike companies market. I don't know.. unless you can prove some other inferiority lighter always seems to preferred with frames for most riders. Lighter is very objective.. most of these other things are not, we can't necessary prove lighter mass produced modern frames are less safe or reliable for example. Last edited by benb; 06-01-2020 at 04:33 PM. |
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy I'm just saying. Also I'd put my particular tetra pro up against anything for ride quality including steel bikes, but it's not as stiff FEELING for hard use as a lot of things - especially the front end. I'm not saying it's the end all be all but I think they're severely underestimated. |
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My interest in them is pure fascination. I'm not an engineer - but I do appreciate design. And to me, these are just really neat - so I've wanted to give one a try, get to see it up close, and revel in the oddity of it all.
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I have been looking for one of those with a 53/54 top tube for years.
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