Suggestions.......Wheel Building....

[JAWN]

Thanks for this thread, guys. I've been wanting to jump into the wheel building and maintaining game for a while. I'm just trying to get my hands on a truing stand and I'll jump in. I'll post some results in the future (which might be a while).

[weisan]

Jawn pal, good on you, feel free to ask any question.

[weisan]

All laced up ready to go, gonna work on em' tonight!

Kinlin X300 20h FSA hub

Velocity A23 28h Ritchey hub

[weisan]

They are ready!

Velocity A23 "White" label

Building the rear was the "easiest" by far, managed to get it to full alignment in less than 1/2 hr, after than it's just bringing the tension up to spec. All but took about an hour. I wonder why.

My theory: The spoke length was dead accurate.

And what's interesting was, this time around, I completely ignore the ERD given by the online spoke calculator and uses the one I measured off the rim itself. The prowheelbuilder website says ERD=601 but I measured 605 and that's what I uses to get the "correct" spoke length, round it up to 298.

I can't tell you how many rims (almost all of them) that I have taken individual measurements actually depart from what's in the database/online source. It just goes to show the importance of doing your own measurement instead of just relying on the website.

Attached a picture of my "primitive" ERD measuring tool taken off Roger Musson's book.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by weisan

They are ready!

Velocity A23 "White" label

Building the rear was the "easiest" by far, managed to get it to full alignment in less than 1/2 hr, after than it's just bringing the tension up to spec. All but took about an hour. I wonder why.

My theory: The spoke length was dead accurate.

And what's interesting was, this time around, I completely ignore the ERD given by the online spoke calculator and uses the one I measured off the rim itself. The prowheelbuilder website says ERD=601 but I measured 605 and that's what I uses to get the "correct" spoke length, round it up to 298.

I can't tell you how many rims (almost all of them) that I have taken individual measurements actually depart from what's in the database/online source. It just goes to show the importance of doing your own measurement instead of just relying on the website.

Attached a picture of my "primitive" ERD measuring tool taken off Roger Musson's book.

I measure 602, Velocity says 601..not sure how you got 605.

[weisan]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

I measure 602, Velocity says 601..not sure how you got 605.

Hmmm.... maybe my tool is not calibrated right, I keep wondering about that. I guess I got lucky this time by getting away with a miscalculated ERD. But I was pleasantly surprised by how easy the last built was. Maybe I am getting better at it.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by weisan

Hmmm.... maybe my tool is not calibrated right, I keep wondering about that. I guess I got lucky this time by getting away with a miscalculated ERD. But I was pleasantly surprised by how easy the last built was. Maybe I am getting better at it.

These work the best, IMHO, but I'm guessing you could make some also.

http://www.modernbike.com/product-21...FZWMaQod94wHRg

ERD 'sources' are all over the map.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

ERD 'sources' are all over the map.

i just go by what the manufacturer says. in reality, i order spokes in even numbered lengths anyway, so nailing the exact number doesnt seem all that important. i'm just an amateur wheelbuilder though.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

i just go by what the manufacturer says. in reality, i order spokes in even numbered lengths anyway, so nailing the exact number doesnt seem all that important. i'm just an amateur wheelbuilder though.

No doubt but the DTSwiss site has been wrong about DT440 for a long time. They say 599, it's actually 596. I emailed DT in Grand Junction..they said, yes, they know, and so does DT but........

I know 1mm doesn't mean much, spoke hole diameter and spoke cutting means + or - a MM or more anyway but it's a pet peeve of mine..If I measure 297, I want 297..why I want a Morizumi cutter/threader..but less than $2900....

[weisan]

Ready to go...

Kinlin XR300 front 20h
FSA hub (this came from eBay and they are so smooth, I like them so much that I bought 3 in a row...)

[weisan]

I got one front tubular wheel to build and I think I am done....at least for a couple of weeks, wanna take a break.

So...it's either Kinlin TB25 28h or Velocity Major Tom 32h.

Vittoria Elite is going on these tubs. Currently stretching on the rims

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by weisan

I got one front tubular wheel to build and I think I am done....at least for a couple of weeks, wanna take a break.

So...it's either Kinlin TB25 28h or Velocity Major Tom 32h.

Vittoria Elite is going on these tubs. Currently stretching on the rims

MajorTom is REALLY wide. Deals with cross tubies really well and yes, you can put a 25mm Vittoria on it but it gets kinda lost. I think it's a better rim than the Kinlin but the 25 Vittoria may be happier on it.

[weisan]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

MajorTom is REALLY wide. Deals with cross tubies really well and yes, you can put a 25mm Vittoria on it but it gets kinda lost. I think it's a better rim than the Kinlin but the 25 Vittoria may be happier on it.

thank you old pal, that's what I want to know, thanks for always being there for me.

[weisan]

How can you tell one rim is of higher quality than the other?

What are the indicators?

[weisan]

Built and ready to glue some tubies....in the meantime, forget dryer, use the natural source of heat: SUN.