Completely naked...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by louis

weisan, i won't say anything more about the c____ or not c_____, but just for the record, being the thread starter and/or the owner of the frame doesn't give you any special privilege to impose rules on what others may say about a perfectly legitimate subject of conversation, especially when the intent isn't malicious or in any way hurtful, and made purely to try to help.

you post an image of a bare frame, expect people to discuss what's shown in the images. if you don't want them to discuss it, then don't post the images. if you want a forum where you make all the rules, then by all means, start your own.

+1..

[FlashUNC]

Streisand Effect. Now all I can see in those photos are what look like cracks.

[Blown Reek]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

Streisand Effect. Now all I can see in those photos are what look like cracks.

Don't forget to notice the flux that wasn't removed. I'm sure all the paint that was applied hid all of the imperfections nicely. However, once the frame was stripped, you can see the "workmanship" in all it's glory. If you do the Pepsi Challenge between the Taylor and the Nagasawa, or the Bob Jackson or the LeMond, there's a notable difference.

But nothing another paint job can't cover! Who needs brass filler when there's body filler!

And how could one not fixate on a crack? This place is rife with custom frame aficionados, and with that comes some semblance of knowing "how things should be". Kind of sucks that it's the OP's "one and only custom frame". Oof.

Even the late, great Whitney Houston said crack is wack.

[weisan]

Hahaha....you guys crack me up. I am glad I don't listen to y'all....all the time.

[unterhausen]

I think that's a bit overly critical of what we see in these pictures. There is still some of the paint on the frame from the most recent paint job. There is no evidence at all of any flux. I'm not sure what the discoloration on the brass is, but it doesn't seem too surprising to me that it's there. Seeing carbon from the bb repair seems unusual, but it isn't malpractice. I am starting to wonder if the primer was black, which is weird, but there is a lot of black on the frame. I think people are letting their bias against the builder control their vision. It looks like a competently made frame to me. The only reason I mentioned the head tube is because now is the time to fix it before it's coated again.

[Blown Reek]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

There is no evidence at all of any flux.

Really? You don't see that glazed, clear-ish glass-like area around the chain stay bridge? That's what flux looks like after it's been cooked.

[unterhausen]

Originally Posted by Blown Reek

Really? You don't see that glazed, clear-ish glass-like area around the chain stay bridge? That's what flux looks like after it's been cooked.

that's obviously paint. Have you ever built a frame? I have built over 1000 and know what flux looks like.

I assume the frame will be media blasted before it is coated because there are a lot of little spots that are still painted.

[rallizes]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

that's obviously paint. Have you ever built a frame? I have built over 1000 and know what flux looks like.

I assume the frame will be media blasted before it is coated because there are a lot of little spots that are still painted.

cool

where can we see some examples of your work?

[Blown Reek]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

that's obviously paint. Have you ever built a frame? I have built over 1000 and know what flux looks like.

You're right. It must be the clear paint that goes on prior to primer that enables you see the grain of the metal beneath. And I've built over 1001 frames, so I'm more of an expert.

[unterhausen]

This frame has been painted twice and has been ridden quite a bit. It's hard to believe that it still has flux on it. Flux wouldn't survive under paint, so there would be a lot of rust.

[Monsieur Toast]

So should he throw the frame out or not? I'm getting confused.

[e-RICHIE]

It's not flux (near or on the chain stay bridge).
It's the last essence of paint scale that didn't make it off in the strip tank.

ps

arrange disorder

[benb]

Nice to see someone develop a history & story with a particular bike.

It seems like once you do that the bike takes on a life of it's own and is worth way more than how many grams it weighs or how stiff it is in.

Somewhat it's like the bike isn't that special to me until something ridiculous has been ridden on it.

I would consider concerns about cracks as more people just caring about you.. Steel might fail pretty safely but no one here wants to see you (or anyone) go down due to a failure.

[ernmony]

This must be a real special bike to go through two repaints and crack.

[NHAero]

Just got my Bob Jackson back from its third repaint in the 48 years I've owned it. A bike can get special through the memory miles you had on it. In my case, it doesn't even fit me - the way we size frames now makes so much more sense, it has a 573mm TT and 540mm is my sweet spot. I got it back Friday, built it up Saturday, and have ridden it 5 days in a row. It's an old friend!

Originally Posted by ernmony

This must be a real special bike to go through two repaints and crack.