Options for 'budget' allroad carbon disc forks

[mstateglfr]

Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Just got the spec sheet from Genesis.

Axle to crown is 397mm. Rake is 50. Trail listed as 60.

If they list the trail as 60mm, I am guessing they calculated that with a 32mm tire.
Tire size changes trail.

[thedude]

Originally Posted by polyhistoric

Check eBay - there is a seller blowing out Enve forks that were stock on the last gen Ibis Hakka. I think the specs are pretty much what you are looking for. Plus... color options!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375274040465

Those are gravel forks that fit up to a 700x50 tire, OP has a road bike

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by thedude

Those are gravel forks that fit up to a 700x50 tire, OP has a road bike

Call it whatever you want, the axle to crown and rake are almost identical --it'll work well

[rice rocket]

Originally Posted by polyhistoric

Check eBay - there is a seller blowing out Enve forks that were stock on the last gen Ibis Hakka. I think the specs are pretty much what you are looking for. Plus... color options!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375274040465

I wonder how someone gets a hold of that many NIB painted OEM forks.

[ridethecliche]

Originally Posted by prototoast

Call it whatever you want, the axle to crown and rake are almost identical --it'll work well

Still kind of a waste though. The rear can't clear any more than a 32 unfortunately.

Originally Posted by rice rocket

I wonder how someone gets a hold of that many NIB painted OEM forks.

Huh that's an interesting thought.

[unterhausen]

Kona always had a clearance page on their B2B site. They recalled some ebikes due to frame issues, and all the bits other than the frame ended up on the clearance page. Good prices, sold quickly. This was long before the current period of difficulties. It wouldn't surprise me if other bike companies do the same and that's where some of this stock comes from. I also imagine right now that some salesmen are getting paid in parts, I know of that happening in the past.

[ridethecliche]

Does anyone know of any bikes with oem forks that might fit the bill?

35-40ish tire clearance. 50 rake. 400 axle to crown.

Wondering if I could maybe find a take off or such.

[Novasfyre]

Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Does anyone know of any bikes with oem forks that might fit the bill?

35-40ish tire clearance. 50 rake. 400 axle to crown.

Wondering if I could maybe find a take off or such.

You could try the bikeinsights search tool?

[Novasfyre]

Originally Posted by rice rocket

I wonder how someone gets a hold of that many NIB painted OEM forks.

Pedal pirate parts, obviously they seized them on the high seas.

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Does anyone know of any bikes with oem forks that might fit the bill?

35-40ish tire clearance. 50 rake. 400 axle to crown.

Wondering if I could maybe find a take off or such.

35-40mm tire clearance is low for a 400 axle to crown fork. It just means you have a bunch of wasted space up there, or unusually narrow legs. There's no practical advantage to having a fork with less tire clearance.

Just get one of the many forks that meet those specs with more tire clearance and call it a day.

[ridethecliche]

Originally Posted by prototoast

35-40mm tire clearance is low for a 400 axle to crown fork. It just means you have a bunch of wasted space up there, or unusually narrow legs. There's no practical advantage to having a fork with less tire clearance.

Just get one of the many forks that meet those specs with more tire clearance and call it a day.

I guess I also look at how changing rake and atc would change the trail and what id need to do to keep it consistent ish.

Of course they moved to full carbon forks in the newest iteration of the bike....

[ridethecliche]

Am I correct that a shorter fork will decrease trail and decreasing rake will increase trail?

So a slightly shorter fork with 5mm less rake should be about a net even change in trail? Will drop the front end and lower stack height as well though right?

Edit:

Just played with it a bit and 2cm shorter fork with 5mm less rake brings me to the same trail. Does that make sense?

[ridethecliche]

Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Am I correct that a shorter fork will decrease trail and decreasing rake will increase trail?

So a slightly shorter fork with 5mm less rake should be about a net even change in trail? Will drop the front end and lower stack height as well though right?

Edit:

Just played with it a bit and 2cm shorter fork with 5mm less rake brings me to the same trail. Does that make sense?

Just bumping this to see if it makes sense. Thanks so much for all the help!

I found this fork that might fit the bill (link), but I think my goal is to find something used or an oem takeoff that works.

[ridethecliche]

Sorry friends. Just bumping this again to see if my math maths out. Y'all know the geo stuff much better than me.

[boomforeal]

You don't want to run a fork 2cm shorter than stock, regardless on net impact on trail.