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Old 05-03-2021, 11:05 AM
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Apple Airtags & Bike Theft

Interesting option for protecting your bike. Imagine they could be hidden is some convenient places.
https://www.apple.com/airtag/
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:10 AM
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Yep, stick one of these under your saddle.
https://www.shopmoment.com/airtags?i...=1620058190786
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:11 AM
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Wow, so excited they finally released them. I have tiles inside my bikes but obviously Apple has a wider and fine net to find things. I’ll be replacing my tiles soon with these.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:35 AM
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I have tiles inside my bikes…
This seems like a good idea; without necessarily divulging your specific approach what do you consider good locations? Balancing relative ease of access and permanence, I was thinking inside the BB shell, since I can remove Campy cranks and an UT shell pretty easily. If it's not in the frame itself (e.g., saddle, post, stem) then it's not allowing you to track the most valuable thing.
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:05 PM
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Yep

These are on my list.
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:10 PM
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If the thief has an iphone, wont it tell him he's being tracked by an air tag?
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:19 PM
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Seems these might not work when placed inside a metal frame? Maybe carbon as well?

Do these things work off some kind of mesh networking?
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:24 PM
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If the thief has an iphone, wont it tell him he's being tracked by an air tag?
From Apple:
“AirTag is designed to discourage unwanted tracking. If someone else’s AirTag finds its way into your stuff, your iPhone will notice it’s traveling with you and send you an alert. After a while, if you still haven’t found it, the AirTag will start playing a sound to let you know it’s there.”

Yeah. So if the thief has an iPhone I’m not sure this will work.
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:33 PM
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GPLama's testing and review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjLbxywixro

From his review... it sends a message to the thief (if they have an iphone), only when they are at their own home (or a regular location for them). Also his testing was hit or miss on this feature.

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Old 05-03-2021, 01:06 PM
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I threw an Airtag in each of my trucks to give it a go. Pretty excited about this as I was never going to pay for something like LoJack.

Didn't bother with my bikes since the only time they leave my home office is when they're under my ass.
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Old 05-03-2021, 01:22 PM
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Apparently "precision finding" is a thing only with iPhone 11/12?

Maybe it's time for me to upgrade my iPhone to one of those if it would allow me to "precision find" my wife's iPhone.

I get recruited to find at least one of her phones at least 1x a day. She carries 2 around, one personal, one work.

I'm going to guess precision find doesn't matter for something like a bike, but I'm also super skeptical in terms of how these would ever work if you hid them in a metal frame.

Under the saddle seems like a good location, then put a piece of electrical tape over it maybe? Some bikes maybe you can hide it down by the BB shell.

I wonder if you could hide it under bar tape or under the rubber of the hoods, maybe they could be strategically hidden on some types of bottle cages.
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Old 05-03-2021, 05:19 PM
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4iiii powermeters have a similar feature built in using Chipolo technology.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:24 PM
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GPLama's testing and review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjLbxywixro

From his review... it sends a message to the thief (if they have an iphone), only when they are at their own home (or a regular location for them). Also his testing was hit or miss on this feature.
According to Ars,
“ …your first line of defense may be a notification to your iPhone that a foreign AirTag is present. Apple designed the iPhone-AirTag connection to do this under two conditions: after the AirTag has stuck with you for a certain "continuous" amount of time that Apple deems sufficient to be considered abnormal, or if you arrive at the location that either your iPhone's machine learning smarts have identified as home or that you have manually recorded as home” “ The length of time doesn't seem to be consistent, but it seems to be in the ballpark of a couple of hours.” “ But there's a much more critical problem: this feature is only available to people with devices running iOS 14.5. ” https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021...acy-messaging/
So, I don’t think Airtags will work for anti-theft unless the thief is a non-iPhone or iOS 14.5 user.

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Old 05-05-2021, 02:20 PM
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Tile has been doing this for years. Naturally in apple fashion, you only get some features only if you have the newest phone. Yeesh....
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Old 05-05-2021, 03:10 PM
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Tile has been doing this for years. Naturally in apple fashion, you only get some features only if you have the newest phone. Yeesh....
Need the newest chip to use the newest features. Makes sense
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