looking for a sturdy commuting wheel recommendation with a noisy freehub

[shinomaster]

Asking for a friend. My neighbor is a gorilla on a bike and breaks everything. He needs a set of robust rim brake wheels and wants a loud freewheel. They seem to be getting quieter these days. Are Mavic Askiums noisy? Shimano Rs-100? $200 is about what he wants to spend. Any other recommendations? Thanks!

[Ozz]

Does he need campy or shimano?

I have some 36 spoke campy wheels....heck, $50 plus shipping. (I knew I should not have recycled the box oldpotatoe sent my new wheels in....)

I think they are Veloce hubs, Ambrosio rims, straight gauge wheelsmith spokes....I will try to confirm.

heavy as heck, but solid wheels. Used to use them as "winter wheels" until I figured out that life was too short to ride heavy wheels.

[shinomaster]

sorry Shimano yes, but that's very kind thanks!

[reuben]

Just put baseball cards in the spokes.

[RudAwkning]

Originally Posted by shinomaster

Asking for a friend. My neighbor is a gorilla on a bike and breaks everything. He needs a set of robust rim brake wheels and wants a loud freewheel. They seem to be getting quieter these days. Are Mavic Askiums noisy? Shimano Rs-100? $200 is about what he wants to spend. Any other recommendations? Thanks!

Shimano road hubs have historically been fairly quiet. They typically have between 16 and 20 points of engagement. The ratchet mechanism is built into the freehub body and then threads into the hub, so the amount of space for increased POE is limited. They bumped the POE up to 36 on some of their mountain bike hubs when Dyna-Sys was introduced. Don't know if they increased engagement on the newer road hubs, but if they did, it was likely just on the higher end stuff. Not likely to be found in your $200 budget.

Unfortunately, more "noise" typically means more points of engagement, which means more precise machining, and therefore more $$$. Gotta pay to play!

Oh, and if your friend is a gorilla, I highly advise he stays away from cheaper Mavic wheels. The freehub body is only anchored to the axle on the lockring side and the rest of the body simply floats over the innershell on a nylon bushing. It also only has 2 small steel pawls. It's a really bad design for heavy riders or folks who ride in inclement weather where grit can collect between the bushing and hub and essentially sand away the aluminum.

[shinomaster]

Originally Posted by RudAwkning

Shimano road hubs have historically been fairly quiet. They typically have between 16 and 20 points of engagement. The ratchet mechanism is built into the freehub body and then threads into the hub, so the amount of space for increased POE is limited. They bumped the POE up to 36 on some of their mountain bike hubs when Dyna-Sys was introduced. Don't know if they increased engagement on the newer road hubs, but if they did, it was likely just on the higher end stuff. Not likely to be found in your $200 budget.

Unfortunately, more "noise" typically means more points of engagement, which means more precise machining, and therefore more $$$. Gotta pay to play!

Oh, and if your friend is a gorilla, I highly advise he stays away from cheaper Mavic wheels. The freehub body is only anchored to the axle on the lockring side and the rest of the body simply floats over the innershell on a nylon bushing. It also only has 2 small steel pawls. It's a really bad design for heavy riders or folks who ride in inclement weather where grit can collect between the bushing and hub and essentially sand away the aluminum.

Thanks for this helpful info. I had the original Fulcrum 7's which were both loud and cheap, but they seem not to be made anymore.

[robt57]

I hate those loud free hubs. Hate a strong word, OK. BUT! for city and city path use, jut stop pedaling or free wheel the chainset back and as good as a bell/horn to alert the oblivious...

[mktng]

Curious. Why a noisy freehub?
Preference. Or for safety, as people can hear you.

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[shinomaster]

Originally Posted by mktng

Curious. Why a noisy freehub?
Preference. Or for safety, as people can hear you.

Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

yeah when commuting and you roll up behind someone they can hear you etc..

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by shinomaster

Asking for a friend. My neighbor is a gorilla on a bike and breaks everything. He needs a set of robust rim brake wheels and wants a loud freewheel. They seem to be getting quieter these days. Are Mavic Askiums noisy? Shimano Rs-100? $200 is about what he wants to spend. Any other recommendations? Thanks!

By far the loudest hubs I've ever heard are the fastengage model from Hunt. It actually hurts your ears if freewheeling in the stand

It's a bit outside his budget but I'm pretty sure the Superdura uses the same hub:
https://youtu.be/_Kv_74R8RUg

[fiamme red]

You could get a quiet freehub and put a baseball card in the spokes.

[JedB]

Originally Posted by Ozz

Does he need campy or shimano?

I have some 36 spoke campy wheels....heck, $50 plus shipping. (I knew I should not have recycled the box oldpotatoe sent my new wheels in....)

I think they are Veloce hubs, Ambrosio rims, straight gauge wheelsmith spokes....I will try to confirm.

heavy as heck, but solid wheels. Used to use them as "winter wheels" until I figured out that life was too short to ride heavy wheels.

Sent you a note about these, since the OP wanted Shimano.

[chicagorider]

Originally Posted by shinomaster

Thanks for this helpful info. I had the original Fulcrum 7's which were both loud and cheap, but they seem not to be made anymore.

I've a pair of Fulcrum 7 taken off of a 2012 CAAD 10 (Shimano 10-speed hub). It appears (from the bike etc.) that the previous owner really did not ride much so they are quite new looking despite the age. PM me if you're interested!

[LeMond123]

Originally Posted by yinzerniner

By far the loudest hubs I've ever heard are the fastengage model from Hunt. It actually hurts your ears if freewheeling in the stand

It's a bit outside his budget but I'm pretty sure the Superdura uses the same hub:
https://youtu.be/_Kv_74R8RUg

Agreed - I've got a set of the Hunt 4 seasons with the high engagement hubs and it's the classic angry hornet swarm bearing down on unsuspecting dog-walkers on the MUP!