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Old 06-25-2017, 09:27 PM
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wikipedia had it listed at 33. the connor was upwards of 25/26 knots in trials of it.
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Old 06-25-2017, 09:53 PM
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wikipedia had it listed at 33. the connor was upwards of 25/26 knots in trials of it.
I believe you are confusing wind speed with boat speed.

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Old 06-25-2017, 10:18 PM
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Random thoughts...

Now that we are at match point:

if ETNZ takes one more, they can set the rules for the next race. I've read that there may be some consideration to going back to monohull--the head of Luna Rossa is firmly in the monohull camp.

As an aside: I think that the monohull Luna Rossa was one of the most gorgeous AC boats. Aside from the massive PRADA sail / wing, it was remarkably devoid of advertising. From one point of view as well, at least that advertising was based in the country of origin of that team as well!

The deed of gift says that the AC is a "friendly" competition between nations--it may be that ETNZ may push for their rules to reflect more of a national bent--while the crew on ETNZ is 8/9 NW (1/9 being AUS), on Oracle (nominally a US boat), 7/9 are AUS, 1 is NZ. I believe two also hold US passports. While we'd want to avoid the "letter of the law" approach that the Swiss campaign Alinghi took (they basically gave "houses" to a variety of NZ / AUS crew members in Switzerland, then after they won, changed the rule entirely), it would be cool to see an AUS team take on a NZ team take on a US team take on an Italian team, take on a Japanese team (Softbank, while it did have a NZ skipper (the great Dean Barker), it also had 3 Japanese sailors!), take on a Canadian team (I can hope, on the latter, hahaha!)

Maybe then, if Canada wins, we can host the 2024 America's Cup out here on Vancouver Island. Maybe my daughter can crew...one can dream!

(And yes, I do remember Mighty Mary in 95!)

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Finally looked at the coverage... sorry for the dum ?... what the hell are these guys pedaling? On the 'Kiwi' boat? Just providing hydraulic pressure? Doing the same as the grinder guys?
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:54 PM
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Good morning, op. Yes! Providing pressure with greater effectiveness than arm power, among other things. Pretty smart.
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:18 PM
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Thanks guys, now I want to modify my boat
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Old 06-26-2017, 03:05 PM
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another traditionalist here

But let's not even bother with the 12s- bring back the Js!!
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But let's not even bother with the 12s- bring back the Js!!

Might as well get rid of the sails altogether!!!




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Old 06-27-2017, 09:25 AM
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Finally looked at the coverage... sorry for the dum ?... what the hell are these guys pedaling? On the 'Kiwi' boat? Just providing hydraulic pressure? Doing the same as the grinder guys?
Yes, the pedalers and grinders are providing hydraulic pressure to operate all the adjusting systems on the boat (trimming and the like). Unlike in bike racing, where competitors are allowed to use externally powered electrical systems for adjustment (Di2, EPS), sailing allows only human powered systems.

Some commentators have remarked that pedaling systems not only can provide more power, but it also may leave the hands free to perform other tasks (i.e, you can continue pedaling the hydraulic pumps while you are using your hands to do trimming and adjustments).
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:28 AM
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Might as well get rid of the sails altogether!!!




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Well the Kiwi's took it. I do hope they keep the foiling multis, its way more fun to watch those cats screaming around the buoys than the old big boats - at least on TV. Either way, the drama of the rule changes is half the fun of the cup...I guess.
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:35 PM
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its way more fun to watch those cats screaming around the buoys than the old big boats - at least on TV.
You're probably right but I really enjoyed the 12s too. Things took a lot longer to develop but it was very tense--I'd see evidence of a mistake (a big gap on the sail tracker) and start thinking about whether it could be corrected before the finish line, and how. A different kind of spectating.
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You're probably right but I really enjoyed the 12s too. Things took a lot longer to develop but it was very tense--I'd see evidence of a mistake (a big gap on the sail tracker) and start thinking about whether it could be corrected before the finish line, and how. A different kind of spectating.
It would probably never work but it would be interesting to see both on alternate days; one day multi-hulls, and the next day 12s.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:12 PM
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It would probably never work but it would be interesting to see both on alternate days; one day multi-hulls, and the next day 12s.
And you thought mounting an America's Cup challenge was expensive now ...
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And you thought mounting an America's Cup challenge was expensive now ...
Yeah but money's just a drop in the ocean for those guys.
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