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Old 10-21-2024, 01:31 PM
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7 MESH Mission Jacket

Anyone riding in the newest Mission Jacket from 7 MESH?

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Old 10-21-2024, 01:36 PM
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I just dont understand why a jacket like this is only available in black.

Assuming that when one needs a rain jacket, visibility is compromised already.

I dont necessarily demand day-glow orange, but these days I want my outer layers to be pretty bright and noticeable. Give drivers the best chance of seeing me.

It also looks pretty damned expensive for a packable shell.

But no, never tried one, so my comments are worth about what you paid for them
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Old 10-21-2024, 01:59 PM
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I just dont understand why a jacket like this is only available in black.

Assuming that when one needs a rain jacket, visibility is compromised already.

I dont necessarily demand day-glow orange, but these days I want my outer layers to be pretty bright and noticeable. Give drivers the best chance of seeing me.

It also looks pretty damned expensive for a packable shell.

But no, never tried one, so my comments are worth about what you paid for them
Luckily running jackets are colorful, well vented and still semi-reasonably priced, so they can serve double duty off & on the bike.
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Old 10-21-2024, 02:02 PM
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Dislike the color and price. $350 is bonkers when a plastic mesh rain jacket will do the same for maybe 20-30 dollars.
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Old 10-21-2024, 02:35 PM
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So Nobody owns one...Classic.

I don't care about price or color.
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Old 10-21-2024, 02:43 PM
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I don't care about price or color.
well, excuse us then.
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Old 10-21-2024, 02:43 PM
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So Nobody owns one...Classic.

I don't care about price or color.
Genuinely curious what you do care about then because it looks like any other black cycling rain jacket. There is no technology or jacket that exists that will keep you dry on the inside and outside at the same time. So therefore it comes down to style, fit and brand IMO. I think that one doesn’t look very nice and would get an Assos.

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Old 10-21-2024, 03:02 PM
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well, excuse us then.
What a load....Dude you have 86 bikes.

Poor
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:07 PM
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Genuinely curious what you do care about then because it looks like any other black cycling rain jacket. There is no technology or jacket that exists that will keep you dry on the inside and outside at the same time. So therefore it comes down to style, fit and brand IMO. I think that one doesn’t look very nice and would get an Assos.
Trim fit, lightweight and modicum of H20 proof and breathability. Shakedry like if you will.

"most" all my winter miles are commuting or zone 1/2 type riding.

I run hella lights and I am beyond visible. If I get creamed on the road a yellow jacket ain't gonna help. I'm also rather reflective and wear orange and or white helmets.

I'll put you down for a no.
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Old 10-21-2024, 08:26 PM
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Bit of an odd approach for help.

If cost is immaterial you could buy half a dozen models and try 'em on.
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Old 10-21-2024, 08:55 PM
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Bit of an odd approach for help.

If cost is immaterial you could buy half a dozen models and try 'em on.
What's odd about it?

Size and color are just two metrics.

I'm curious about overall fit/breathability/durability to name a few. Yes I can and might order every size and color of ea. model of jacket 7Mesh makes and then return most of it.

I wasn't trying to impress anyone but I also didn't ask if people thought it was too expensive I asked if anyone owned it and how they liked it.

Any chance you own one?
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Old 10-21-2024, 10:41 PM
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I would be interested to hear about this jacket also. I commute every day. I have been really liking the Castelli ROS Alpha jacket. Gore Infinium material and Polartec Alpha liner. Very trim fit. The 7 Mesh jacket may not fit in a jersey pocket but I am sure it would fit in my Osprey backpack.
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Old 10-22-2024, 09:42 AM
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I would be interested to hear about this jacket also. I commute every day. I have been really liking the Castelli ROS Alpha jacket. Gore Infinium material and Polartec Alpha liner. Very trim fit. The 7 Mesh jacket may not fit in a jersey pocket but I am sure it would fit in my Osprey backpack.
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It's all fun and games around here but I am actually curious if anyone has experience with this jacket. Our needs seem to be rather similar, so if I get one I'll add some thoughts about it here.

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Old 10-22-2024, 09:58 AM
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So not this jacket specifically but for my damp winter base type miles I’ve gone from an Assos SturmprinzEvo (AMAZING), to a Shakedry (fine,but better for spring), to an Assos RS.Rain (it’s fine), to a Q36.5 Rain Jacket X that is a perfect blend of the shakedry and sturmprinz.

Can’t speak to the 7Mesh but for a similar situation, I would get the Q36.5 as it’s just as breathable while keeping you dry as the Sturmprinz and packs better. Plus the Collar is PERFECT for covering your neck without pressure..
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Hey all! I'm one of the 7mesh founders, bumped into this thread late but I'll leave a few points in case they're helpful.

- Why black? The material is translucent, so making it lighter won't make it pop. More generally - we did a ton of R&D on reflectives and high-viz colours, learned a tremendous amount, launched great products, and they didn't sell well. Most riders don't want it. Until we're big enough to offer both that's a barrier for us.

- On reflective: it's way less effective than most riders think. Don't fall for photos taken with flashes, that's not what drivers see. We took great photos but I wouldn't use them; imo brands that do are irresponsible.
My personal advice: use active lighting, and if you use reflective forget your torso, put it on your shoes & lower legs.

- Why expensive? Mission both is, and isn't. Recreational outerwear is a want, not a need, and $350 is a big spend for most people. However if this level of performance is what you're after, it's actually very competitive. e.g. the Mission at $350 is made with the same material as the POC Supreme which is $500.

- "no technology or jacket that exists that will keep you dry on the inside and outside at the same time" - This is true in that the realistic goal is not to stay perfectly dry during hard efforts, for example. But there is a massive spectrum of performance / comfort / dryness below that perfect level, and better technologies & designs make a huge difference to the riding experience, especially at higher output levels.

- "may not fit in a jersey pocket" - Mission was designed with primary intent to wear for your whole ride, so it has a full suite of pockets etc that make it less packable. However it's still sub-200g, and has our StashSystem, which means it fits inside its own internal pocket and has clips to attach to your bike. We launched Stash 3 years ago, super helpful and we've added it to a number of our styles.

- Shakedry - there is nothing out there that is directly comparable, from us or anyone else. Incredible material, performs amazingly well despite having a couple of key limitations. But unfortunately the technology isn't there to replace it today.

Thanks for the interest!

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