Grab your popcorn...Hambini vs AbsoluteBlack...again

[Onno]

Originally Posted by m_sasso

In the event that AB just made respectable products in any case and didn't attempt to sell overrated scam, they might have prevent all this.

This.

I fell for the AB marketing once, buying a fancy-looking set of chainrings for my bike. It was a terrible product. Chainring bolts quickly came loose and damaged my bike, and the design more or less guaranteed that any dropped chain meant having it wedge up against the bottom bracket. Truly terrible engineering.

[zap]

Originally Posted by callmeishmael

Mind you, I am something of a Hambini sceptic; he too often produces 'data' but either won't divulge his testing protocols, list equipment used, or offer video evidence of said testing (odd for a YT channel owner). Zero Friction cycling have a very (very) long pdf where they go into the weeds about his bearing friction tests, and to say it casts doubt on his conclusions would be kind.

Hambini is not the only one who favors quality steel bearings over certain ceramic hybrid bearings. Other engineers get into the weeds regarding tolerances, etc.....notably something Zipp (cough) had difficulties with some years ago.

Interesting that Zero Friction is dipping its toe's re bearings. There is something about Zero Frictions chain testing protocols that bugs me.....I need to talk to an expert in this very niche business. Others in the chain efficiency "biz" also made some interesting comments that raised eyebrows.

Anyhow, indeed, grab some popcorn.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by prototoast

I don't know what to make of any of the Hambini stuff, but I recommend this book for an interesting read about the lengths a sketchy company will go to intimidate and discredit the journalists who are trying to report on their misdeeds: https://a.co/d/0yghTTF

In another case, a year ago 2 ebay executives were given prison sentences for their systematic cyberstalking, harrassment, and downright terrorizing of some e-commerce bloggers who wrote blog posts critical of ebay's practices:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/29/form...ng-scheme.html

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by djg21

I had the same thought. It’s unlikely that a business or law firm would waste the time and resources, and it’s an obviously stupid strategy. It’s just too over the top and I question the credibility.

Well, its happened before, so its not impossible (see my post above about the ebay executives who were convicted for felonies involving harrassment of bloggers who were critical against ebay).

On the other hand, this isn't the first time that Hambini has been involved in something like this: Hambini claimed that he received a threatening cease-and-desist letter from Flo Cycling regarding some of his criticisms. But Flo Cycling claims that neither they nor anyone associated with them sent any such letter. Here's Flo Cycling's side of the story:

https://blog.flocycling.com/news/flo...i-accusations/

[tomato coupe]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

.On the other hand, this isn't the first time that Hambini has been involved in something like this: Hambini claimed that he received a threatening cease-and-desist letter from Flo Cycling regarding some of his criticisms. But Flo Cycling claims that neither they nor anyone associated with them sent any such letter.

Yep, the evidence strongly suggests he’s fabricated this kind of stuff before.

[Tychom]

Considering he's had the police called on him previously for online harassment of a journalist including doxing them, it's hard to feel too much sympathy for when it comes back at him.

Two wrongs don't make a right though. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out and how anonymous the domain registrant truly is.

[duff_duffy]

When I first read the thread I was on Hambini’s side and actually felt bad for him. Then I looked into some of the stories that others linked to. My opinion has done a 180. I think he’s looking for clicks anyway he can.

Originally Posted by tomato coupe

Yep, the evidence strongly suggests he’s fabricated this kind of stuff before.

[Shane4XC]

Originally Posted by duff_duffy

When I first read the thread I was on Hambini’s side and actually felt bad for him. Then I looked into some of the stories that others linked to. My opinion has done a 180. I think he’s looking for clicks anyway he can.

Unfortunately everything seems to be he said she said, with no unbiased third party voices. In such a scenario, I deem all of them guilty

[unterhausen]

There's no doubt about what he did to the female journalist, it was all posted on his public accounts. I am somewhat of a cynic about the bike industry, so a lot of his stuff doesn't really interest me. There are a lot of other people on youtube that show that expensive carbon bikes are often built poorly, you could spend your life watching them.

[bicycletricycle]

Didn’t he just point to a public strava road profile for that GCN person? It is kinda dirty but at the same time public info is public info. Don’t share things on the internet unless you don’t mind the whole world knowing. As far as the alleged lawsuits, well, seems like a he said she said at this point.

[ridethecliche]

I posted in this thread already... but like all this stuff is so incredibly childish and stupid.

I guess some folks really do believe that no publicity is bad publicity...

[kiwisimon]

when the monkeys at the zoo start throwing pooh,
walk away.
same when the males start jerking off.

[Applesauce]

Originally Posted by jamesdak

So....how is it a good idea to link and share this here if it's so bad?

Most here would probably know nothing of it until it was shared here?

I don't get it?

Ha! That’s me. I’m trying to figure out WT* is going on here. Obviously some kind of outrageously slanderous gossip about some people I’ve never even heard of.

[mstateglfr]

- if the website was created by a company or person in an attempt to discredit and cancel Hambini and the info is wrong- I hope the creators are exposed and lit up for the lies and crap they created.

- if the website was created by a company or person to discredit or cancel Hambini and the info is accurate- I hope Hambini gets knocked down some pegs and is forced out of the common discussion. He will always have a small group of loyal followers regardless of what he does or doesn't do, but hopefully his reach gets reduced.

- if the website was created by Hambini to generate views and clicks, I hope his reach is reduced and his voice is not promoted.



Regardless of which of the 3 scenarios above is true, I genuinely hope the guilty party gets lit the F up by press and the industry.

[hoj]

Originally Posted by mstateglfr

- if the website was created by a company or person in an attempt to discredit and cancel Hambini and the info is wrong- I hope the creators are exposed and lit up for the lies and crap they created.

- if the website was created by a company or person to discredit or cancel Hambini and the info is accurate- I hope Hambini gets knocked down some pegs and is forced out of the common discussion. He will always have a small group of loyal followers regardless of what he does or doesn't do, but hopefully his reach gets reduced.

- if the website was created by Hambini to generate views and clicks, I hope his reach is reduced and his voice is not promoted.

Regardless of which of the 3 scenarios above is true, I genuinely hope the guilty party gets lit the F up by press and the industry.

Well said. My thoughts exactly