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Old 09-19-2023, 03:07 PM
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That's definitelyAttachment 1698071183 not a 1993 CRL. It's the first example I can recall of a model code being used a second time for a new model. Better photos would help with identification. I can't even be sure of the fork model from the picture. My guess would be that it's a Fierte but they were made in steel and Ti, so start with the magnet test.

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It does look to be titanium. With no carbon tubes and custom geometry it would seem likely to be a Legend or a Concours, but that doesn't explain why it has a different code than we've seen previously. It looks like you have Campagnolo 10 speed with the new shape levers. If the components are original that would put it 2009 or later. I haven't been able to find a web archive of the Serotta site in 2009, but it appears that by mid 2010, the Classique was the only all titanium frame being produced.. That makes sense of the C CL code as well. MSRP of $3395 in July of 2010, presumably for a frameset. Try entering the link below at the wayback machine.

http://www.serotta.com/Bikes/Road/ClassiqueTI

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Old 09-19-2023, 03:22 PM
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In this thread on 19 January 2012 cnw20 posted a 2010 Classique with the serial number CL X00959. That corresponds to what I remember about 2010 and later Serottas having X in the serial number. So SomerHimpson60's bike is possibly a 2009. I still have no explanation for why the model code was changed, but at least we seem to have two Classiques coded CL.
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Help please!! Confusion persists!!!

On the model table it lists:-CL and identifies it as CRL. What does CRL mean please? My Serotta Ti number is CCL 52 062, where i understand the first C stands for custom and the CL is the model. But what model is CRL please?
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Could it be a Legend Ti?

What year do you believe it was made please?
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More photos of my mystery Ti!

Please find more photos which may identify the model
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On the model table it lists:-CL and identifies it as CRL. What does CRL mean please? My Serotta Ti number is CCL 52 062, where i understand the first C stands for custom and the CL is the model. But what model is CRL please?
The CRL mentioned in the table is the top of the line lugged steel frame made in 1993 and 1994. I believe your frame is a custom Classique, likely built in 2009.
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Please find more photos which may identify the model
Here is a for sale thread with a very similar Classique with a C CL serial number:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ight=classique
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