what tires for the rain bike?

[Hilltopperny]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Gravel King vs Gravel King Plus



Anybody try both?



Thoughts....



They'd go on a commuter/touring bike so would lean to the plus. We sell reg at the shop and they seem plenty durable.

I have never really run in to any issues on gravel kings. Used a bunch of different sizes over multiple bikes and terrain and they always performed great without punctures or flats, but I do ride in rural New York. The roads themselves are not the smoothest surfaces, but they are relatively clear of puncture causing debris.


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[Tim Porter]

Originally Posted by merckx

The Corsa Control does not offer additional puncture resistance over a bog-standard Corsa. Purchase them for the romance, and not for the protection.

Putting aside romance, I'm not sure whether this is correct or not; Vittoria certainly claims the additional tread depth adds up to more puncture protection in the Corsa Control, and even add a little BENT NAIL ICON on its website to support this claim for this model. The bog-standard Corsa gets no such icon.

[azrider]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Gravel King vs Gravel King Plus

Anybody try both?

Thoughts....

They'd go on a commuter/touring bike so would lean to the plus. We sell reg at the shop and they seem plenty durable.

Say whaaaa??? When were GK plus tires released? Never heard of em till now.

I'm still in LOVE with my GK slicks. Great on everything, low rolling resistance, durable (so far) and great in rain. But any added durability at minimal weight penalty sounds great to me

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by merckx

The Corsa Control does not offer additional puncture resistance over a bog-standard Corsa. Purchase them for the romance, and not for the protection.

I can only talk about experience and I think flats is about luck and where you ride and weather, ect but the crontrol has been more durable than the corsa. There is no cuts on the tire what so ever while on the corsa by now the whole tire would be cut up. Again, this could be lucky but seems to be what I habe been experiencing.

[Kirk007]

Panaracer Race D Evo. Any tire with good grip and a tube that has been doped with sealant or a good longwearing tubeless like IRC roadlite. Honestly using sealant in tubes and tubeless I've been winter flat free in the Pac NW for a few years now.

I may have to give Vittoria another try given that so many people rave about them. My esperience was different. I bought a pair of 27mm corsa g when they first came out - never had a tire that liked to wash out so quickly in the rear if it hit something slick like a metal pothole cover. They've been relegated to indoor trainer tires where they function admirably.

[muz]

Conti 4000Sii 28mm, or 5000TL 32mm. Why switch for the rain bike?

[robertbb]

Originally Posted by fignon's barber

On my Shamal C17, they measure 27mm.

Awesome, thank you for the info! 25mm on order.

(By way of comparison, my Veloflex Corsa 28's measure 26.5 on Zonda C17's. this whole tyre size thing is a crapshoot!)

[merckx]

Originally Posted by Tim Porter

Putting aside romance, I'm not sure whether this is correct or not; Vittoria certainly claims the additional tread depth adds up to more puncture protection in the Corsa Control, and even add a little BENT NAIL ICON on its website to support this claim for this model. The bog-standard Corsa gets no such icon.

The data is on Bicycle Rolling Resistance.

Total Tire thickness including tread (ctr):
Control---2.7mm
Corsa---2.6mm

Sidewall thickness:
Control---0.9
Corsa---0.9

The only difference between these two tires is the tread pattern treatment.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by robertbb

Awesome, thank you for the info! 25mm on order.

(By way of comparison, my Veloflex Corsa 28's measure 26.5 on Zonda C17's. this whole tyre size thing is a crapshoot!)

yea, and don't forget height, which is the limiting factor on some road frames too.

i should have mine in hand tomorrow and i'll also measure.

[fignon's barber]

Originally Posted by merckx

The Corsa Control does not offer additional puncture resistance over a bog-standard Corsa. Purchase them for the romance, and not for the protection.

Independent highly reputable controlled lab test: different compound, thicker tire, better grip, slightly more rr:

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...a-control-2018

[Davist]

Originally Posted by muz

Conti 4000Sii 28mm, or 5000TL 32mm. Why switch for the rain bike?

I think the 4 seasons have sidewall to sidewall protection and the 4k/5k just have it under the tread...

[muz]

Originally Posted by Davist

I think the 4 seasons have sidewall to sidewall protection and the 4k/5k just have it under the tread...

I see, worried about getting a sidewall cut as you are crashing in the rain?

Seriously, I found the 4 seasons to be harsh and no better traction in the wet.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by Hilltopperny

I have never really run in to any issues on gravel kings. Used a bunch of different sizes over multiple bikes and terrain and they always performed great without punctures or flats, but I do ride in rural New York. The roads themselves are not the smoothest surfaces, but they are relatively clear of puncture causing debris.


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[QUOTE=azrider;2640951]Say whaaaa??? When were GK plus tires released? Never heard of em till now.

I'm still in LOVE with my GK slicks. Great on everything, low rolling resistance, durable (so far) and great in rain. But any added durability at minimal weight penalty sounds great to me


Thanks for that you two. And yes I just ran across the Plus version myself.

If the reg version is as durable as it seems then I might just try a pair. I've been riding Conti Top Contact 2 in a 700x38 and they are amazing tires. 10k miles zero flats and the have lots of life in them. Crazy really.

If I could get a bit better road feel i'd try the GK and see how it goes. I just wonder if the casing on the plus is too similar to the Conti. That said, no flats on a commuter/touring bike is a great thing. Those Conti's really shine.

[robertbb]

I wonder if we're talking about the same generation of Corsa / Corsa Control.

There's differences between the 1.0 and 2.0

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by robertbb

I wonder if we're talking about the same generation of Corsa / Corsa Control.

There's differences between the 1.0 and 2.0

I was talking about v1.