list of comfort / sport geometry frames

[ashwinearl]

I'm thinking of a new frame designed around a more upright position but still a fast machine.

Here is the list I've got so far, any other would be appreciated.

-Fierte
-Specialized Roubaix
-Trek Pilot
-Gunnar Sport
-Custom of course (Strong, Curtlo, Desalvo top of list)

thanks

[palincss]

That pretty much describes all the Rivendell models, and the Tournesol customs as well.

[dauwhe]

Rivendell Rambouillet
Rivendell Romulus/Redwood
Rivendell Saluki (650B)
Rivendell/QBP Bleriot (650B, not yet available)
Kogswell (is it the model P?)

all of the above are lugged steel

Double Post.

Giant OCR Models.

Kind of in the middle but the Titus Modena uses a traditional headset that gives it about a 20mm taller headtube than the Trek and Specialized race bikes. Additionally it has 415 chainstays which are 5-8mm longer than most race bikes. This gives you a bike between the newer comfort models and the "traditional" race geometry bikes.

Keep in mind when looking at headtube lengths that you need to add 20-25mm to an integrated headtube to end up with the same length as a traditional press in headset. (Headset stack for integrated is approx 8mm, stack for a traditional press in is appox 30mm).

[OldDog]

I'm thinking for myself a Riv Saluki. It just makes sense for me, as more and more of my riding is down pretty country <dirt> roads. I'll never give up my pure road bikes, because, their fun. But to just go out and meander, go anywhere and not worry about skinny tires, thin spokes, etc. Again, it just makes sense.

[ashwinearl]

Originally Posted by cdmc

Giant OCR Models.

Kind of in the middle but the Titus Modena uses a

Thanks for this suggestion, I quite like the look of this one.

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Originally Posted by ashwinearl

I'm thinking of a new frame designed around a more upright position but still a fast machine.

Here is the list I've got so far, any other would be appreciated.

-Fierte
-Specialized Roubaix
-Trek Pilot
-Gunnar Sport
-Custom of course (Strong, Curtlo, Desalvo top of list)

thanks

bro do the Fierte i.m.h.o. cheers

[BarryG]

Litespeed Veneto - discontinued in '05, but NOS still available. Definitely meets your criteria.

[Serotta PETE]

-Fierte
-Specialized Roubaix
- CIII (yes you can still get it BUT name might be different.) CUSTOM

Advantage of "custom fit" is that you can have it exactly the way you want for the type ride.

Another suggestion is to get sized by a good fitter and than compare the specs to the bikes/frames you are considering,

PETE

[ashwinearl]

Originally Posted by Pete Mckeon

-Fierte
-Specialized Roubaix
- CIII (yes you can still get it BUT name might be different.) CUSTOM

Advantage of "custom fit" is that you can have it exactly the way you want for the type ride.

Another suggestion is to get sized by a good fitter and than compare the specs to the bikes/frames you are considering,

PETE

Actually that's why I am looking. My current custom lugged steed now has this fugly stem that is longer and high rise. Don't like the look.

[Serotta PETE]

Try a sloping top tube and tell the fitter you do not want one of those short stems that races toward the sky. I agree that they present a less than stellar (fugly) picture. I have seen many of them and can only assume that the customer or builder did not like the sloping top tube solution. With threadless you have only two solutions - - One the stem or Two the sloping TT. There are no other options to get you in the more upright position.

I am not a fitter but it you put a drawing on paper you have to raise the front end to get the bars higher. This is done via (STEM), (TT slope)

- - or a very high parallel to the ground TT - which could be somewhat uncomfortable if you had to get off bike in a hurry.

Pete

[Tom Kellogg]

Eddie:
For the '06 Solis, the internal headsets are gone now. Actually, Merlin has gotten rid of all of those ugly head tubes on their Ti frames, FINALLY. The only one left is the Proteus (full carbon frame).
Are they in shops yet? I don't know. Merlin has been shipping the new Works frames for some time now but I don't know if the new Solis is shipping yet. You can call your dealer and have them ask their rep if they are available.

[ashwinearl]

Originally Posted by Pete Mckeon

Try a sloping top tube and tell the fitter you do not want one of those short stems that races toward the sky. I agree that they present a less than stellar (fugly) picture. I have seen many of them and can only assume that the customer or builder did not like the sloping top tube solution. With threadless you have only two solutions - - One the stem or Two the sloping TT. There are no other options to get you in the more upright position.

I am not a fitter but it you put a drawing on paper you have to raise the front end to get the bars higher. This is done via (STEM), (TT slope)

- - or a very high parallel to the ground TT - which could be somewhat uncomfortable if you had to get off bike in a hurry.

Pete

Yes I agree upsloping top tube is what I'm looking for. But that is different than compact geometry, so it is hard to differentiate between a pure compact frame and one that upslopes to provide a higher bar.

There is also the option of lots of spacers on the steerer tube, which doesn't look good either to me.

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Bro I'm just a dumb bike messenger but I'd say any classic steel bike that fits would fit the bill.Cheers