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08-20-2019, 04:36 PM
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08-20-2019, 04:39 PM
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Some friends of mine in Sonic Y. opened for him at a festival in Belgium years ago...in the backstage area he was walking around and then he went into this little trailer to warm up for the show...just him and his acoustic in there with door open...so I pulled up a chair and sat outside, listening to him sing alone for 3 or 4 numbers...later, onstage I got to stand behind his amp...the crowd was pretty young and fairly lame...he kept turning around and asking "what's wrong with these ****ing kids?"
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08-20-2019, 05:06 PM
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08-20-2019, 05:11 PM
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I saw Neil Young when he was touring with out Crazy Horse just doing acoustic sets. Thoroughly enjoyed it even though I'm not known to be a huge NY fan.
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08-20-2019, 05:16 PM
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I like Neil. He's pretty awesome, still bringing it. That said, I think he's way wrong here. I consider my modern portable Spotify player(s) the most amazing technological advancement in audio playback.....yet. And, I'm almost 67, started playing 45s in the 60s, worked my way to 33rpm "record changers" in my dorm room, and graduated to quite the audio geek system of tube amps and Quad electrostatic speakers. But the Walkman was a revelation, because you could finally walk around with a lot of music that sounded pretty good, and play it anywhere. Now, with a phone and portable speakers, I have a massive record store in the sky called Spotify, that I can access anywhere, including the car (the second player I alluded to). Pretty much anything. I think that's awesome. Even in the gym now, I listen to anything on totally wireless headphones. Sure, on a certain scale, it sounds like s**t, but, hey, I first heard Hard Days Night and Satisfaction through a five inch speaker on a dash in my parent's car, and that didn't spoil the fun and thrills at all. It's, as always, only rock and roll. Don't get so picky. You'll miss a lot. Neil can afford the price and time, most can't.
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08-20-2019, 05:31 PM
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I love NY more than most, but he is a retrogrouch in the worst way when it comes to music. The reality is most people are perfectly happy to listen over heavily compressed files thru crappy ibuds or pay a for airpods with mediocre sound quality all in the name of convenience. Modern overproduced music sounds fine on that setup, because it was engineered to. His solution was absurd and egotistical - the Pono was a solution to a problem that didn't exist (kinda like Tidal is now). Portability and quality don't intersect much, and most people don't carry around the quality of headphone to take advantage of the better signal response - convenience always wins out. He's also ignoring that it's never been a better time to be an audiophile. Ultra high bitrate/bitdepth FLACs are common now which offer literally an order of magnitude more information than a CD. And there is sufficient bandwidth to distribute them. Mastering is now vastly better, and more easily backed up (compared to the horrible loss of a massive Universal library we only recently found out about). Very high quality DACs are common now, and easily available for under $200. Add in a good set of cans, and you've got a killer setup without dropping a grand on a whole rack and another grand+ on speakers.
Since we're on a bike forum, here's my (crappy) analogy - it's like how modern carbon bikes are all identical and soullessly pumped out of Asian molds all fairly identical with similarly bland black finish, and all ride and look about the same. Compared to the days of steel and mythical craftsmen and the magical ride quality of certain tubesets and Italian airbrushing. But these carbon bikes blow steel away performance-wise, and are produced in huge numbers, and a halo bike from only a decade ago sells for peanuts on the used market without really giving up any performance advantage. There will always be an appreciation for both, but steel lovers are an increasingly dying breed. Kinda like vinyl.
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08-20-2019, 05:36 PM
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08-20-2019, 06:07 PM
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Just my opinion...but as an old musician who spent a good bit of time making records and in the studio ...the stuff about sound quality is pretty over done...I mean, if you want to spend 35 bucks on a new reissue of V. Underground vinyl, go right ahead...but to me, it's just new forms of marketing to get folks to buy stuff again and again in different formats...they never tell you that vinyl wears out each time it is played anyhow and loses quality...I can't hear any big differences via compressed files...besides, anyone who has played live music, or rock music anyhow for long enough live has their ears pretty much blown out anyhow and I am sure that is prolly true most of all for Neil...a good song will pop out of any speaker and sound great...and short of owning the original master tapes and hearing them thru a pristine system from a reel to reel machine you won't hear much real difference...
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08-20-2019, 06:10 PM
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08-20-2019, 06:15 PM
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There's definitely a line to be drawn between cutesy bluetooth speakers/iPhone earbuds/Crosley turntables from Urban Outfitters and "audiophile" equipment costing thousands of dollars to get in to, but Neil just ends up coming off as a lunatic with his "sales pitches."
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08-20-2019, 06:21 PM
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some friends of mine in the Stones went vegan....
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08-20-2019, 06:25 PM
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08-20-2019, 06:35 PM
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The 90s were so weird.
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