Installing a 44mm headset - Page 3

sfo1 · #31 12-10-2018, 11:01 AM

reminds me of.....

Man bun & ponytail.

cribbit · #32 12-10-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by quickfeet

I just got my king 44mm headset installed, here is list of tools used.

Park crp-2 crown race puller $265

Park crs-15.2 oversized crown race setter $95

Park hhp-2 headset press $174

Park rt-1 Cup remover (to pull the old headset) $36

Park rt-2 oversized Cup remover (to pull the old headset) $36

Chris King 1.125 adaptor $48

Chris King 1.5 adaptor $48

My head math says that’s $702 in total tools. This doesn’t even touch the overhead of the rent, utilities, and labor. You’re right, definitely not worth a $30 fee to install.

One, the co op already has all the other tools. Two, I only need to install a new headset, not remove an old one.

There are also plenty of $50-70 options from brands like wheelsmfg.

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC

But paying a bike mechanic in beer is helping keep the lights on in the industry?

Get outta here with that silliness.

Paying a bike mechanic a reasonable amount for a service will. For this I'd say $10 is cheap, $15 is reasonable and $20 is expensive. $30 is make a whining thread.

The "a few beers" statement wasn't meant to piss off so many people. It's meant to show how when you overcharge for a service, you end up losing customers entirely rather than at least getting some customers. Would a shop rather do 50 $20 installs or 15 $30 ones? Not to mention that business wise, stuff like this should be what gets people in the door who otherwise might not have come in.

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

You think $30 is too much(disposable income an issue, 'it's just pricing') but you want to spend more than that $30 to 'show those crappy bike shops'....I donno, confused..get the thing installed, go ride yer bike.

If I find just 1 other person who doesn't want to pay the $30 install, we have $60 of "**** you" money. That's enough to buy the tool. It's not a $700 tool.

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Originally Posted by CiclistiCliff

Damaged crown race during install, can it be fixed?

Or

Headset binds, don’t know why.

I've installed 50+ headsets without issue, I think I'll be fine. It's also not that hard.

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do any of your own repairs but don't pretend like it's impossible for people to do their own repairs.

FlashUNC · #33 12-10-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cribbit

The "a few beers" statement wasn't meant to piss off so many people. It's meant to show how when you overcharge for a service, you end up losing customers entirely rather than at least getting some customers. Would a shop rather do 50 $20 installs or 15 $30 ones? Not to mention that business wise, stuff like this should be what gets people in the door who otherwise might not have come in.

If that was the intent then you badly missed the mark. It devalues the skill and labor of those who do this professionally and need to charge what they charge to keep the lights on, pay bills and hopefully make a profit at the end of the day.

Just buy the tool and install it yourself if giving a shop a couple bucks.

chiasticon · #34 12-10-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cribbit

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do any of your own repairs but don't pretend like it's impossible for people to do their own repairs.

it's absolutely not impossible to do your own repairs. I've pulled and installed many headsets on my own, with my tools. I bought the tools specifically because I know I'll use them often enough that they'll pay for themselves; and this is simply because, as you're seeing, such repairs can be pricey. a one shot install, thinking you may go another 5-10 years without doing it again? not worth buying the tools. $30 is totally fair in NYC. I'll bet the same shop charges $15 for a new tube and install. and you know how easy that is, and that it requires no tools.

sfo1 · #35 12-10-2018, 01:47 PM

Can OP put context to this build? What is frame/kit build?

$30 in grand scheme of things on a $200 build vs. $1k & up build is two different equations.

zzy · #36 12-10-2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiasticon

I'll bet the same shop charges $15 for a new tube and install.

Most NYC shops actually charge a fair bit more now...

joosttx · #37 12-10-2018, 01:55 PM

This is the best thread ever.

cribbit · #38 12-10-2018, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by zzy

Most NYC shops actually charge a fair bit more now...

Yeah I'd actually say $15 including install etc is a good price, most shops charge $8-10 just for the tube itself.

It's about the same time and labor (and dirtier) to do a tube swap as a headset install. Depends if it's a ****ty steel bead.

charliedid · #39 12-10-2018, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cribbit

One, the co op already has all the other tools. Two, I only need to install a new headset, not remove an old one.

There are also plenty of $50-70 options from brands like wheelsmfg.

Paying a bike mechanic a reasonable amount for a service will. For this I'd say $10 is cheap, $15 is reasonable and $20 is expensive. $30 is make a whining thread.

The "a few beers" statement wasn't meant to piss off so many people. It's meant to show how when you overcharge for a service, you end up losing customers entirely rather than at least getting some customers. Would a shop rather do 50 $20 installs or 15 $30 ones? Not to mention that business wise, stuff like this should be what gets people in the door who otherwise might not have come in.

If I find just 1 other person who doesn't want to pay the $30 install, we have $60 of "**** you" money. That's enough to buy the tool. It's not a $700 tool.

I've installed 50+ headsets without issue, I think I'll be fine. It's also not that hard.

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do any of your own repairs but don't pretend like it's impossible for people to do their own repairs.

You keep bringing up beer, so I can only assume you are drunk.

quickfeet · #40 12-10-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cribbit

I've installed 50+ headsets without issue, I think I'll be fine. It's also not that hard.

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do any of your own repairs but don't pretend like it's impossible for people to do their own repairs.

Then go do it, I don’t understand what you are complaining about. You clearly don’t value what the bike shops time, tools, and overhead cost the same way they have to in order to stay open. $30 is normal and reasonable in any part of the country not just NY.