Arkea-Samsic/Quintana Doping Investigation

[RobJ]

Clearly his performance at the TdF would indicate otherwise....

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fre...our-de-france/

[Elefantino]

Nairo, Nairo, Nairo ...

[bicycletricycle]

I bet it is allergy medication or some ointment.

On the other hand, *** do I know?

Why aren't ketones illegal?

[peanutgallery]

MotoMan is alive and well

Some things never change

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

I bet it is allergy medication or some ointment.

On the other hand, *** do I know?

Why aren't exogenous ketones illegal?

It's just fuel - but is it covering for something else? Who knows.....

[bicycletricycle]

keytones are not fuel in the same way sugar and carbs are. Your body makes them. Your body makes lots of things that you arent allowed to take as a supplement.

what is the point of making doping illegal?

to make things fair?
to see who the best natural athlete is?
to keep the riders safe?

Seems to me like ketones don't fit in with any of these goals. Just because your body makes it. Your body makes testosterone as well but I am pretty sure it is illegal

Originally Posted by Clean39T

It's just fuel - but is it covering for something else? Who knows.....

[Nick12]

I was always under the impression that substances were banned to protect the health of the riders as there isn’t a lot known about the longer term effects of some of the substances. Fairness shouldn’t really be a factor because when everyone is taking them then everyone is on the same playing field.

But to the Quintana point, I’m really hoping he isn’t caught up in it. I would like to see a Quintana-comeback. But maybe that’s just me!

[robt57]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

It's just fuel - but is it covering for something else? Who knows.....

Isn't it more the mechanism for fuel delivery being diddled really?

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by robt57

Isn't it more the mechanism for fuel delivery being diddled really?

We can all look the science up if we want to. Your body makes ketones under certain circumstances as a type of fuel. It is not a source of fuel that occurs naturally outside of the body. It is not like taking a gel.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

keytones are not fuel in the same way sugar and carbs are. Your body makes them. Your body makes lots of things that you arent allowed to take as a supplement.



what is the point of making doping illegal?



to make things fair?

to see who the best natural athlete is?

to keep the riders safe?



Seems to me like ketones don't fit in with any of these goals. Just because your body makes it. Your body makes testosterone as well but I am pretty sure it is illegal

Fair point. The lines are pretty fuzzy for sure.

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[notsew]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

I bet it is allergy medication or some ointment.

On the other hand, *** do I know?

Why aren't ketones illegal?

If they aren't harmful (and I have no idea) and everyone has ready access, then why bother? If you do, it's just another thing to test for and regulate and a potential disadvantage for those that don't want to break the rules.

[tctyres]

Was Arkea-Samsic in the TdF this year? I can't remember.

Dayer kept crashing at the back of the peloton. Maybe he should use stronger dope?

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by notsew

If they aren't harmful (and I have no idea) and everyone has ready access, then why bother? If you do, it's just another thing to test for and regulate and a potential disadvantage for those that don't want to break the rules.

I might agree with that, but then you would have to let in testosterone, topical steroids, some banned anti inflamitories and HGH just to name a few.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

I might agree with that, but then you would have to let in testosterone, topical steroids, some banned anti inflamitories and HGH just to name a few.

But these are deemed to be be potentially harmful (if misused), which is why you need a prescription for them.

[jimoots]

From reading a few different articles on this, it sounds like the whole team had their rooms searched.

Calling out Nairo feels like clickbait at this stage, at least I hope it is.