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I will join the parade of recommending the Concept 2. Like a few others, I started with a Model A, and am now on a Model C, which is getting a lot of use in my basement now that the weather is making it harder to get on the water. I have been rowing (sometimes at a relatively high level) since 1979 and remember when the brothers Dreissegacker invented the modern rowing maching. They changed everything. Nowafays the Concept 2 is literally used worldwide. It's only significant competition is teh RowPerfect, which some teams seem to prefer due to it supposedly having a feel that is more like the boat. I don't buy the physics argument that a RowPerfect is easier on your back but I also haven't rowed one.
I have rowed a water rower, and while I think it is a nice enough machine and a nice to look at, I don't think it is in the same league as a piece of training equipment as a Concept 2 or RowPerfect. Plus teh C2 is significantly less expensive, and as noted, has amazing customer service. Finally, the OP mentioned he wanted to use the rowing machine to improve upper body strength. Just a reminder that Olympic style sliding seat rowing is a full body, highly aerobic, exercise that translates well to cycling, but isn't an effective way to bulk up your upper body. CaptStash.... |
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Now that I'm north of 50 my back occasionally feels weird after rowing workouts and I'm very leery of hurting myself. I've heard that dynamic ergs are easier on the back but I've never had the opportunity to use one. I'm intrigued however. |
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To LegendRider, the Dynamic erg is definitely easier on the back—the catch is not as heavy, and you aren’t moving your body mass back and forth. To the OP, if having something that doesn’t look like a piece of commercial exercise equipment in your living room is of primary importance, then get the water rower. Otherwise, the C2 erg is the way to go for all of the reasons described above. |
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For people with poor technique, I think that extra intertia from your center of mass moving and the force needed to overcome it and start moving it in the opposite direction could translate to decreased back pain. Lots of novices slam into the catch and load the backs improperly at the catch. I cringe when I see a bent "C" at the catch.... Dynamic or not, you still have to load the back and use it as a lever for transmission of the leg drive, but the transition and inertia are much different. A dynamic erg also provides more immediate feedback when you are doing it wrong. |
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Evocative of the French Revolution...
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Thanks for all the replies, ended up going with a C2 model D.
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Congratulations - it's the better machine, and you won't regret it.
You've probably already seen it, but in case you haven't there's a C2 forum that's useful for any questions you might have: (although C2 themselves are super-helpful) https://www.c2forum.com/ |
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2 years of perfection
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the other thing about the C2 is that they are reasonably easy to find used, and generally very lightly used.
i got mine on craigslist years ago and it's been a great off-season tool. because of their great build quality and lifetime serviceability, you can confidently buy a pre-owned model for a bargain.
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For those who like to track their workouts, I highly recommend creating a logbook on the C2 website, and downloading C2’s free app, ErgData. If you have the latest generation performance monitor, the PM5, you can connect your phone via bluetooth and hrm via Ant+. For earlier PM models, you need to get a connection kit from C2.
C2 runs “challenges” at different times of the year, which can serve as a good motivational tool. |
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As you've found, because they really don't wear out unless they've really been abused, they hold their value very well. So if for some reason you decide to sell it in the next few years, you'll be getting a significant % of your money back.
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