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Old 08-11-2019, 06:01 AM
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Installing a mechanical group onto electronic frame FINAL RESULT

Recently acquired a Canyon Ultimate CF SL frameset that is designed to take a wired electronic group such as Di2/EPS, but it seems entirely possible to, instead, install a mechanical group (Ultegra 8000/DA 9100) if you run full length derailleur cable housing through the holes/tubing. Anyone ever try this? Thoughts? -Jeff N.

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Old 08-11-2019, 06:10 AM
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Recently acquired a Canyon Ultimate CF SL frameset that is designed to take a wired electronic group such as Di2/EPS, but it seems entirely possible to, instead, install a mechanical group (Ultegra 8000/DA 9100) if you run full length derailleur cable housing through the holes/tubing. Anyone ever try this? Thoughts? -Jeff N.
Will work for RD with a full length housing. But a full length housing will not work for the FD unless you can secure the housing so that you can run the FD cable exposed to the FD to allow for the travel of the FD.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:16 AM
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Will work for RD with a full length housing. But a full length housing will not work for the FD unless you can secure the housing so that you can run the FD cable exposed to the FD to allow for the travel of the FD.
Both DA 9100 and Ultegra 8000 FD's have "stops" for housing. That is what makes me believe it is possible.

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Old 08-11-2019, 06:20 AM
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Both DA 9100 and Ultegra 8000 FD's have "stops" for housing. That is what makes me believe it is possible.
Well then if you can physically run the housing you should be good to go.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:22 AM
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will full housing fit through the small holes that are made for tiny thin e cables?
also with mech, there is 2 points that hold the cable, if you just have 1 place, at the derailleur, maybe the shifting is worst.

also, I know you like mech shifting but give e shifting a try, its pretty awesome.
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:21 AM
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will full housing fit through the small holes that are made for tiny thin e cables?
also with mech, there is 2 points that hold the cable, if you just have 1 place, at the derailleur, maybe the shifting is worst.

also, I know you like mech shifting but give e shifting a try, its pretty awesome.
Holes are big enough for Der. housing, yes.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:11 AM
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Front der. cable bend ok?
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:39 AM
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Front der. cable bend ok?
We shall see. My main thing was to see if anyone here has ever attempted this. Apparently not...until now.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:06 PM
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will full housing fit through the small holes that are made for tiny thin e cables?
also with mech, there is 2 points that hold the cable, if you just have 1 place, at the derailleur, maybe the shifting is worst.

also, I know you like mech shifting but give e shifting a try, its pretty awesome.
I'll use batteries for starting my car, operate my cell phone, light my flashlight and change the channels on my TV...but NOT shift the gears on my bike. For whatever reasons, I cannot accept that. If I can't make this Canyon work with my plan, it'll be for sale soon....probably here.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:19 PM
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Dibs if its a Small!
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:26 PM
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2xl, sorry.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:51 AM
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If you are looking for something to make cable stops, grab some wire shrink wrap and real small "O" rings. Roll the rings over the housing and position accordingly, slide the shrink wrap on and hit it with a heat gun........10 seconds and you're done. I've done it on two Scott Plasma TT frames for both the front and rear derailleur housing. Works like a charm. Good luck. GP
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:16 AM
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I'll use batteries for starting my car, operate my cell phone, light my flashlight and change the channels on my TV...but NOT shift the gears on my bike. For whatever reasons, I cannot accept that. If I can't make this Canyon work with my plan, it'll be for sale soon....probably here.
haha you are missing out. It works great. I used to think that way and then I tried it and although I don't think its better, I think its pretty great.
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:15 AM
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haha you are missing out. It works great. I used to think that way and then I tried it and although I don't think its better, I think its pretty great.
Which one do you use?
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:24 AM
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As an aside, I get the battery phobia with respect to having 4x per system (on etap, two coin cells even) but with Di2 the only battery is way over capacity and almost never needs charging. You can check it quarterly and throw it on charge after a ride one day. It's really not a big deal. If you don't check your mech shifter cables quarterly you're probably taking more of a chance.
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