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FWIW - I have 9100 shifters on my Firefly, RS685 shifters on the Anderson and Litespeed, and 105 on the Bob Jackson. I really doubt if blindfolded I could tell the shifting quality of the 9100 from the RS685. The 105 is less crisp, but it's 10s and I think those all together don't shift as well as the 11s.
I'm running a Dura Ace 9100 RD and it shifts an Ultegra 11-34 just fine. The FD is the R8000 Ultegra 'cuz I had it around. BTW, I had a Record 11 RD on there first, came with the bike, and the Record 11 stuff IMO shifted worse than the Shimano. I didn't have much of a dog in the Shimano/Campy fight, 'cuz I only switched to integrated shifters a couple of years ago, and I wanted to love the Campy. I'd go Dura Ace on a custom Kirk, it "deserves" the best! That's why I put DA shifters, RD, and brakes on the Firefly. The Dura Ace brakes (I chose 9000, I liked the looks and they're a bit lighter) are the best caliper brakes I've ever ridden, and I'd just taken the Record 11 brakes off the bike. Last edited by NHAero; 05-20-2019 at 06:28 PM. |
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They all feel buttery anymore Shimano wise I think, where as I used to say I like the 10s D/A better due to feeling more buttery. The downshifts anyway. |
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put the correct holes in the frame and get Di2
if you've not tried it, you and your last bike deserve it. Go all DA, then add Ultegra Di2 rear derailleur and go climbing with a big cassette. Cables are for retro grouches .
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You do realize that this is the Early Warning System telling you that you need to replace your cable, don't you?
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Shimano might like me to believe that. I wish their early warning system was less pokey.
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Buy what you think is the best , regardless of "value" or cost. It deserves what you think it should have. Don't have buyers remorse, that gets expensive!
My vote, get the top of the line group for what is a top of the line bike. Period. |
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Ask Kirk - it is his baby!
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I know that Dave has used Dura Ace and I think he has now also tried Etap.
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Just put full 9100 on my new Kirk
That said, if you really want to run a 34T cassette, I would probably do mostly 9100 with a long cage R8000 rear derailleur. |
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I'm very impressed with this generation's 105, apart from the weight there is no functional difference between DA, Ultegra or 105. a full Ultegra group is only $100 more than a 105 group anyways so I guess just go for the bling. From Ultegra to DA it's a bit more expensive but if 9100 kept 9000 series' distinctive silver/ black color scheme then it's worth it but since it's not I would say Ultegra is more than enough. Di2 is not a bad option either you can buy a full 8050 set with the money for DA9100. I used to hate electrical shifting until I started using it...
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But what of duration of function? As in expectation of length of use [miles?] prior to having to replace, etc?
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From what I read it's 50/50 on which last longer. Some say lower end groupos like 105 last longer because more steel parts are used, yet the others say DA would last longer due to higher engineering tolerance. I personally root for 105 lasting longer than Ultegra and DA because I believe more material used and more steel than alloy is more resistant to wearing... Not to mention everything is cheaper to replace on 105 from RD pulleys to shifter hoods.
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