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Old 03-07-2024, 06:40 PM
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Best components ever made
I have to agree.

I have been using Campy N/R and Super Record componentry ever since it became available.

All my bicycle associated tools (including a plethora or Campy) are centered around this gruppo. Easy as heck to work on and refit when required, reliable, and very durable.

I love that all I need is quite literally, a small handful of tools to take with me on the road (in a tiny seat bag) and confidently be able to service most problems out on the road, without any serious issues.

I can appreciate the newer technology, but for myself, this stuff does exactly what I want and a pleasure to use!

Boom.
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Old 03-07-2024, 06:47 PM
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I went to 10s Campy a while ago, like 2005-2006. Decided that all the bikes in the house would have it, so I'd have spares on other bikes, like the tandem (10s Campy levers moving Shimano 9s derailleurs) and my wife's bike. I have 2 road bikes.

I've since "upgraded/downgraded" from Record/Chorus to Centaur (?) shifters, one shift at a time, so I can shift during sprints and not shift 2 gears by accident.

I probably have another 5 years of cassettes and chains left. I have 2 sets of levers that are pretty fresh (the Record/Chorus ones that I took off my bike), plus the levers on the tandem and my wife's bike (both are pretty crisp). I have at least 4 sets of current wheels, 3 sets of narrow rim wheels.

No plans on upgrading or changing right now.
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:23 PM
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If the 12-30t cassette will be enough for the future few years, go for it. The cassettes, even at the Centaur level (the one having 12-30t offered) are well over 100.00 for just stacked cogs, and not so widely available.
I made a 12-30 by taking out one cog from a 12-28(?) and using a 30t Miche as the large cog - I think I got it from BikeInn for $8 last year. Still, I went to a triple 10 speed Chorus crank with a 24t small ring.

But I digress. PLEASE Campy/3rd party, make a decent 12-36 10 speed cassette for us, er, lesser beings.
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Old 03-08-2024, 05:21 AM
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The ONLY "downside" to 10 speed stuffs is lack of range on the cassette. The largest sprocket when 2x10 speed was new is 29t. If you want higher low end for spinning up hill then 12 speed is the way to go. If not hang with 10 speed. I love the 10 speed Record on my Bianchi 928 Lugged and wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:01 AM
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I built up an eddy merckx Motorola (sl tubes) with Daytona 10s in great condition during the winter, really looking forward to use it this spring, have previously used a fondriest with DA 7700 group for 3 seasons,, albeit 9 speed but will still make for a fun comparison

Campa 10 speed was truly the last good looking groups out there.
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Old 03-08-2024, 08:40 AM
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The ONLY "downside" to 10 speed stuffs is lack of range on the cassette. The largest sprocket when 2x10 speed was new is 29t. If you want higher low end for spinning up hill then 12 speed is the way to go. If not hang with 10 speed. I love the 10 speed Record on my Bianchi 928 Lugged and wouldn't trade it for anything.
If I needed REALLY low gearing with ten speed, I would get the long cage rear derailleur and get a Specialites TA Carmina triple crank. The small ring BCD is 74 mm and accommodates down to a 24 T ring. With a 29 in the rear, I think that gear would be sufficient to climb a brick wall in the saddle from a dead stop. As a pure bonus, you would end up with more usable gears than with a twelve speed double ring setup. All of the ten speed left levers are very happy with a triple.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:08 AM
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The ONLY "downside" to 10 speed stuffs is lack of range on the cassette. The largest sprocket when 2x10 speed was new is 29t. If you want higher low end for spinning up hill then 12 speed is the way to go. If not hang with 10 speed. I love the 10 speed Record on my Bianchi 928 Lugged and wouldn't trade it for anything.
At first the largest sprocket for 10spd was on the 13-29 cassette, but there is now a 12-30. This can be paired with a compact 50/34 crank, or even a 48/32 sub-compact. For even wider gearing, 10spd Ultra shifters also supported triple cranks.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:56 AM
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:09 AM
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All my road bikes are running Campy 10 speed. It’s beautiful, works well, can be serviced when needed, and parts are still readily available.

I have a pristine 10 speed group that I’ve pieced together over the years and it’s been waiting for the perfect project. I have a new Kirk on the way and for a moment I thought of using 12 speed, but only for a moment. That 10 speed group has waited long enough, it’s going on the Kirk!
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:21 AM
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Ummm.... that guchi is HOTTTT!!! What size is it? </endHijack>
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:06 AM
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All my road bikes are running Campy 10 speed. It’s beautiful, works well, can be serviced when needed, and parts are still readily available.

I have a pristine 10 speed group that I’ve pieced together over the years and it’s been waiting for the perfect project. I have a new Kirk on the way and for a moment I thought of using 12 speed, but only for a moment. That 10 speed group has waited long enough, it’s going on the Kirk!
^THIS^ is the correct choice
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Old 03-08-2024, 12:33 PM
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If one is/was fortunate enough to pick up an IRD Wide Range Campy 10 cassette (long out of production), 11-32, 12-32 & 11-34 were available options (they shift well). That said, the old Shimano 9 MTB rear derailleur trick to run a Shimano 10 cassette opens up big cogs to 40T or maybe even 42T (40T is the largest I've run with an XT long cage, but 42T "might" work with the right hanger/chainstay/chainring/derailleur combo) and shifts as well as all Campy.

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Old 03-08-2024, 01:01 PM
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I am running Campagnolo 10s Record/Chorus on 10 of my bikes. I have another build that's almost done which is Campagnolo 10s too, as will be the Pegoretti that I will build this summer.

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Old 03-08-2024, 01:27 PM
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Never felt the need to move past Campy 10-speed.

So unless feel the itch will not go away, use what you got.
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Old 03-08-2024, 01:56 PM
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I'm willing to bet that any rider that can beat me on a say 20 mile route while riding whatever flavor of 12 speed gear you chose is the same rider that can beat me on the same course riding whatever flavor of 8 speed gear you choose,
Well said.

Maybe revise to "5-speed friction with downtube shifters though" cause this stuff really doesn't make that much of a difference. I think people who started on the whizbang new stuff and have never tried the old stuff don't get it.

As if the Pro Peloton didn't average 25mph+ for hundreds of miles before integrated shifters and they didn't crank out 30mph+ time trials.

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