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Old 08-15-2018, 07:01 AM
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Uh, oh. Change in script. It looks like I'm not too far back in line now and need to be making decisions sooner than later. So, this whole "try another one out to inform the next one" may not be happening.

The witty banter and recommendations have been good for my decisioning though, so I appreciate all y'all sharing your leisure time with me so generously.

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Old 08-15-2018, 09:35 AM
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I've recently been riding a late 90's Lemond Buenos Aires equipped with Chorus 11.

1 inch steerer. Long. Cheap. Originally equipped with a threaded steel fork, although I have substituted a carbon one in it's place.

That should check several of your boxes. A Zurich is the same frame with an original carbon fork.
I had one of those back in the day and sold them when I worked at a Lemond LBS. They're great bikes. It's a shame folks these days can't walk into a bike shop and walk out with something like that (other than a few exceptions...).

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Old 08-15-2018, 09:46 AM
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You've ridden a metric ton of bikes.

You know what you want. Just talk to Paul when your turn is up and all will be well.

Oh, and seems like you'll be getting one of the first frames outta the new shop to boot.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:51 AM
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I don’t think you will ever find a bike you’re completely content with...you’ve ridden so many, owned so many, and seem to find flaws in every bike rather than just riding and enjoying the miles. I mean, that’s where the forum can become a hole where all you do is buy, sell, and post...rather than log miles on the AMAZING bikes you’ve owned. I mean, do you even know what geometry you need in a bike? It’s great to give these builders the business but not even the best will be able to satisfy what you’re wanting at this point. Unfortunately I’m not sure if you even know what you want or what you’re doing? Lol it’s a whirlwind. You wanted to unload all of your Campy stuff...downsizing for a move....hoarding two groups for more builds...lol talking about picking up a new build in 2019 while waiting on a custom from one of the best?

You have much more experience about bikes than I do but the only advice I can give is...go RIDE. Don’t waste away your time on a forum talking about bikes, selling stuff, etc. If you have a Kirk cross, why are you wanting a potential bike that will do the same?
T, buddy, I ride pretty much every single day...except yesterday, too much damn smoke in the air...and I enjoy all the miles...more have gone by under my tires this year than any in the past. I also enjoy wrenching on bikes and talking about bikes and researching obscure bike stuff. It's all part of the hobby for me. I'm not losing sleep. This is FUN. Hence the light-hearted responses to some interesting comments in this thread...

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Old 08-15-2018, 09:57 AM
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That was a great read! You are the master librarian of aged PL content


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Old 08-15-2018, 10:02 AM
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I have. And I do. It's the road race bike he was building twenty years ago. Back before people thought all quivers had to be killed...
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You've ridden a metric ton of bikes.

You know what you want. Just talk to Paul when your turn is up and all will be well.

Oh, and seems like you'll be getting one of the first frames outta the new shop to boot.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:29 AM
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What about a Cervelo Prodigy

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Old 08-15-2018, 10:40 AM
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Late to the party, but has anyone mentioned Dave Moulton Fuso. Not your size but here is an example from my local Craigslist. There is also a few on eBay. When visiting my parents in FL during the late 90s early 2000s a local shop had one in their rental fleet, pretty decent ride. If I remember correctly it was marketed as a working man's budget oriented racer.

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/bik/...666175544.html
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:45 AM
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Hell yeah. I had a Super Prodigy in '03 - great bike! It had a Columbus Muscle fork iirc..
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:48 AM
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There are a couple sweet Fuso (Fusi?) on the Bay right now that are close to my size, but not quite. They're on the list too. An Eisentraut would also be sweet. Plus Tesch. But at some point I'm just listing every great steel bike from 20-30yrs ago... Guess I need to start a foundation and rent warehouse space.
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Late to the party, but has anyone mentioned Dave Moulton Fuso. Not your size but here is an example from my local Craigslist. There is also a few on eBay. When visiting my parents in FL during the late 90s early 2000s a local shop had one in their rental fleet, pretty decent ride. If I remember correctly it was marketed as a working man's budget oriented racer.

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/bik/...666175544.html
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:51 AM
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I've recently been riding a late 90's Lemond Buenos Aires equipped with Chorus 11.

1 inch steerer. Long. Cheap. Originally equipped with a threaded steel fork, although I have substituted a carbon one in it's place.

That should check several of your boxes. A Zurich is the same frame with an original carbon fork.
Yep, impossible to go wrong with a Lemond!











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Old 08-15-2018, 10:53 AM
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There are a couple sweet Fuso (Fusi?) on the Bay right now that are close to my size, but not quite. They're on the list too. An Eisentraut would also be sweet. Plus Tesch. But at some point I'm just listing every great steel bike from 20-30yrs ago... Guess I need to start a foundation and rent warehouse space.


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Yep, impossible to go wrong with a Lemond!











I'll take a #4 and a #6, super-sized.

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Old 08-15-2018, 10:54 AM
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Ha, our daughter's bedroom has turned into bike storage. One positive of being empty nesters I guess.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:06 AM
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A lot of good stuff mentioned here. You should have bought the Sachs.

Outside of that, I would look for a ELOS Frame with race geo.
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