Campy Shamal Ultra vs Mille?

[drgonzo]

Can someone tell me what the difference is between the Campy Shamal Ultra and Shamal Ultra wheel set? Based on the Campy website, the only difference I see is that the Ultra is available in bright label and has the 2-way fit option. I also notice the the Ultra clincher version weighs 10g less than the Mille but has a €142 LOWER mspr than the Mille. So what exactly is the difference? For that matter, I'd love a breakdown of the hierarchy for the entire line of wheels - if there's a website that lays that out, please share.

Thanks!

[Hellgate]

The Mille has a ceramic coating on the rim and brake track, the Ultra is a machined brake track.

I have the Ultras and I'm very happy with them. They are my winter wheels and have held up nicely thru rain, mud and yuck.

I've not ridden the Mille, however, the braking is supposed to be excellent with Campy blue pads. Or is it green pads? Regardless, both are excellent wheels.

[Dino Suegiù]

Essentially, Ultra vs Mille (in rim brake versions):

Ultra: Silver (machined) brake track + silver nipples; can use a variety of brake pads.

Mille: Black (ceramic) brake track + black nipples; more "stealth" look; blue brake pads (generally wear faster) highly recommended.

The differences are all in aesthetics and to a far lesser degree braking. No other differences afaik.

[flying]

I always thought those Mille's look hot but I cannot imagine the black brake tracks won't eventually have silver streaks

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by flying

I always thought those Mille's look hot but I cannot imagine the black brake tracks won't eventually have silver streaks

They will. Great wheels, but if I had it to do over again, I'd just get the Ultras and be done with it.

And unless you're running tubeless, do not get the 2 Way Fit.

[drgonzo]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

They will. Great wheels, but if I had it to do over again, I'd just get the Ultras and be done with it.

And unless you're running tubeless, do not get the 2 Way Fit.

You answered the two deciding questions I had, thanks!!

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

And unless you're running tubeless, do not get the 2 Way Fit.

Was going to chime in with that - if you want tubeless, be sure to get 2-way-fit - otherwise go for the clincher version for easier mounting..

Also, just FYI - if you want Shimano FHB, Fulcrum Racing Zero, Zero Nite, and Zero Competizione are all similar to Shamals and excellent wheels, sometimes cheaper.

[Dino Suegiù]

Also drgonzo:
imo the current Shamal graphics (whether "dark label" or "bright label") on the Campagnolo website are not so great. The "dark label" is no longer actually completely dark.

My (I do not recall the year, ~2015, see below) Shamal Ultra (non-Mille) have very nice grey/black only labels, no white at all. The graphics look much nicer/simpler/more discreet than the current iterations imo.

2020 Shamal Mille "Dark Label" graphics:



2020 Shamal Ultra "Bright Label" graphics:



~2015 Shamal Ultra "Dark Label" graphics:

[Wakatel_Luum]

I'd love a set of the Shamal Mille wheels but I have so many wheels already that need culling...

[CSKeller]

I can't comment on the current Shamals but if they are anything like my 10yr old Shamals that are 2way fit they should be bombproof.

I'm a clyde and have been running them tubeless ever since I bought them. Awesome all-around wheels! If I were to buy a new set I would skip the Mille version because the coating will eventually get scrubbed off.

Great wheels! You can't go wrong with either version.

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[Clean39T]

All the graphics are easy to pull off though..

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[msriddle]

I’ve had both, the Mille provide the best braking feel in aluminum I’ve experienced. The black coating is holding up well so far but I suspect it will start wearing out. I was looking for the all black look that the Mille provides.

Conservatively, when you think about the wear and the special blue pads required, the ultras are the logical choice.

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by drgonzo

You answered the two deciding questions I had, thanks!!

Oh and the specific blue pads can be a pain in the butt to source, especially if you're using shimano compatible pad holders and need to get the Fulcrum version of the pads.

[shinomaster]

I want Milles for braking in wet weather, more than the aesthetics.

[ThasFACE]

Got both, and both are outstanding wheels. Mille look cooler to my eye, but I never worry about conditions with the Ultras, so the Ultras tend to get more use. If I had to have one set it'd be the Ultras for sure.