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Whats '0' ? the shape of the hole the nipple tears thru the rim bed?
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My wheelbuilder typically does not favor Sapim CX-RAY spokes for most builds unless one simply must have aero profile. Somewhat flexy.
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If one still wants aero but wants a little more stiffness, there are a few other options. Sapim CX-Sprint and DT Aero Comp spokes offer an aero profile, but have the same cross-sectional area (and stiffness) as standard 2.0/1.8 or 2.0/1.7 butted spokes. |
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Although I haven't quite hit 200 lbs, I haven't had a problem with the 18/24H Bastognes aka Ardennes that I bought in 2010. In fact I bought a slew of HED wheels that year, Jet 6/9 (same spoke count, probably similar rim), Stinger 6 (18/24), and, later, Stinger 7/9 (18/24) and Stinger 4 (18). The Stinger 4 is pretty flexible laterally but otherwise the wheels have served me well. I've raced, trained, and flown with the Bastognes. 23c tires the entire time. If I was a bit heavier I'd run a slightly wider tire on them.
I was at 200 lbs when I bought an original set of Eurus, steel spokes. I think they were 18/21? Or 16/21? Something low up front, 21 in the rear. Not only were they strong enough, they were really stiff laterally and my favorite normal/narrow rim wheels ever. And due to lack of 10s stuff and lack of money, I raced and trained on the one set of wheels for a season. I ended up with a second set. The first set is under a former teammate's bike, and still going strong. I have the front from the second set, and a local rider bought the rear after his hub broke or something. 23c tires only. Ditto on a wider tire. I'd take them mountain biking with a 2" tire. |
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The 'aeroness', when ya put an unaero body on the bike is lost in the noise. AND I'd use CXSprint for right side rear
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Short answer: yes, a 20/24 spoke wheelset can be plenty strong enough for a 200 lb. rider. Good wheel building skill combined with quality components will equal a reliable set of wheels.
Context: a little under three years ago, I built two, identical 20/24 spoke wheelsets for a friend and myself. We’re both amateur racers who wanted dependable, “everyday” racing wheels. Neither of us fit the bike racer mold. I used to be a 215 lb. hockey player (now down to 170-ish) and my friend Jon is 190 lbs. of single-digit body fat weight lifter. We both put down a lot of power. The wheel build specs:
We chose the XR31T rims both for strength and aerodynamics. The finished wheelsets weighted about 1535 grams. Both wheelsets have been 100% reliable, with no trueing needed since they were built. Jon likes them so much that they have stayed on his bike full-time, even when towing his kids in a trailer. He claims towing the trailer is great training... Greg Last edited by GregL; 11-22-2020 at 02:13 PM. |
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Any data available to suggest that Belgiums are stronger than Archetypes?
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I don't know if HED rims are stronger than HPS, but I have 24/24 HED wheels on my gravel bike, which I often ride on really rough surfaces (not to mention I weigh 215 lbs), and they haven't needed to be touched in two years of use.
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In addition to my experiences the weight limits that HED puts on their wheels of a given spoke count implies they're up to the task of much heavier riders without more spokes. And FWIW, the shops I've worked at have mostly built HED and H+Son rims. Last edited by joevers; 11-22-2020 at 10:05 PM. |
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DT411-32/32 XR31T-20/24 Same Bitex hubs Both using Sapim D-Light spokes..which wheelset weighs less? DT411-1481g vs 1545g The 'way' to a light wheelset is a light rim and adequate spokes for the rider..BUT, loses LOTZ of coffee shop points before your Sunday, 35 mile ride.
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