Modern bar for 7700 group?

[Old School]

This is a picture of retro-modern Nitto M151 bars, with cable grooves that I filled with bondo, sanded and covered with handlebars tape.
this particular shape is not available without cable grooves, plus I like the engraving.

[lorenbike]

Originally Posted by shoota

Sounds like you want a compact bar, which the Noodle is not. Nitto makes other compact models though, like the M151.

I've messed around with bars more than anyone should over the past year so you're in luck...

Nitto M106/151 are my favorite drop bars currently. The regular 151 model is a 26.0 stem and Neat M106 SSB are a 31.8 stem. If I remember those model numbers correctly. Both have the same shape and are measured at the hooks with maybe a few slight degrees of flare. So marked size 40cm is 40cm at the hooks and about 39cm at the ramps. Nice flat ramps, and comfortable in the drops. I dislike old skool bars with deep drop, long reach, and sloping ramps.

Currently I have the M106 on a modernish road bike (modern Shimano brifters, threadless stem), M151 on a neoretro road (quill stem, modern brifters), and noodles on my commuter bike (tall quill stem to get the bars up, aero levers). I like the 106/151s more than the Noodles for what it's worth.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by lorenbike

Nitto M106/151 are my favorite drop bars and I currently have a couple of pairs. The regular 151 model is 26.0 stem and 106 Neat SSB are 31.8 stem. If I remember those numbers correctly. Both have the same shape and are measured at the hooks with maybe a few slight degrees of flare. So size 40cm is 40cm at the hooks and about 39cm at the ramps. I've used on neo retro builds with aero levers and my modern build with 105 brifters. I too dislike old skool bar with long ramps, deep drops, and sloping ramps.

I did get a 44, but 42 next time.

[Mr steel]

I compliled a list of modern geo bars for 26mm clamp some time ago, can highly recommend the nitto m106

Deda 215
Drop: 142 - Reach: 86

Deda Newton
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Deda Piega
Drop: 143 - Reach: 87

Deda Speciale 26
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Bontrager SSR VR-C
Drop: 125 - Reach: 85

Soma Highway One
Drop: 130 - Reach: 75

Nitto M106 NAS
rop: 128 - Reach: 78

Nitto M151f
Drop: 128- Reach: 76

Origin-8 Pro-lite Compact
Drop: 120 - Reach: 70

Civia Emerson
Drop: 128 - Reach: 80

Tranz X Alloy
Drop: 140 - Reach: 90

Procraft Road Pro Compact
Drop: 125 - Reach: 70

[RoosterCogset]

Throwing another out there

https://www.condorcycles.com/product...44762219610433

[stefthehat]

I’am an idiot not remembering this bar as Condor are local to me ,I’ve had this on a bike I sold it ticks all the boxes

[RWL2222]

Nice list—thanks for that

Originally Posted by Mr steel

I compliled a list of modern geo bars for 26mm clamp some time ago, can highly recommend the nitto m106

Deda 215
Drop: 142 - Reach: 86

Deda Newton
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Deda Piega
Drop: 143 - Reach: 87

Deda Speciale 26
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Bontrager SSR VR-C
Drop: 125 - Reach: 85

Soma Highway One
Drop: 130 - Reach: 75

Nitto M106 NAS
rop: 128 - Reach: 78

Nitto M151f
Drop: 128- Reach: 76

Origin-8 Pro-lite Compact
Drop: 120 - Reach: 70

Civia Emerson
Drop: 128 - Reach: 80

Tranz X Alloy
Drop: 140 - Reach: 90

Procraft Road Pro Compact
Drop: 125 - Reach: 70

[gravelreformist]

I wish manufacturers would more readily supply the ramp angle in their specs. Hard to be certain what you are getting for the critical bar/hood interface without it.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by gravelreformist

I wish manufacturers would more readily supply the ramp angle in their specs. Hard to be certain what you are getting for the critical bar/hood interface without it.

How would you measure "ramp angle"? Won't that change, depending on the mounting location of the levers? Not to mention that different brand/model levers have different shapes?

[gravelreformist]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

How would you measure "ramp angle"? Won't that change, depending on the mounting location of the levers? Not to mention that different brand/model levers have different shapes?

Simply define a center point of the bar for a neutral installation. Yes, the specific location of the levers will ultimately impact the transition angle, but that doesn't mean they can't specify a baseline.

[shoota]

Originally Posted by gravelreformist

Simply define a center point of the bar for a neutral installation. Yes, the specific location of the levers will ultimately impact the transition angle, but that doesn't mean they can't specify a baseline.

"Simply define" and the bike industry are not compatible lol

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by gravelreformist

Simply define a center point of the bar for a neutral installation. Yes, the specific location of the levers will ultimately impact the transition angle, but that doesn't mean they can't specify a baseline.

Given that levers come in all shapes and sizes, even if they are all mounted in the same position (in relation to some reference point on the bar), they will all have different angles between bar and lever.

It is difficult to standardize the measurement of complex curves into a single number or two. Even the drop and reach numbers have no standard way to be measured, and the same bar can have different drop and reach numbers if they are measured by different systems.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

Given that levers come in all shapes and sizes, even if they are all mounted in the same position (in relation to some reference point on the bar), they will all have different angles between bar and lever.

It is difficult to standardize the measurement of complex curves into a single number or two. Even the drop and reach numbers have no standard way to be measured, and the same bar can have different drop and reach numbers if they are measured by different systems.

But all you have to do is simply define the center point.

[PacNW2Ford]

Originally Posted by Epicus07

I’m restoring a 90s Davidson and with a beautiful Dura Ace 7700 group. Id like a more modern style transition to the hoods. Most of the examples i see feature a steep downslope or significant bar rotation to get flatish. Can I get flat and still reach the levers ?

Wish I knew where to find more of the long discontinued Shimano PRO Plt Round bars. With them you get a flat transition to the hoods and round drops that look great on classic steel bikes. Nice reach to the levers in the drops too.

[PacNW2Ford]

Wait, mine are Vibe 7S, but still discontinued.