Shimano road 12 speed?

[nickl]

Originally Posted by batman1425

What team is that?

The team that won last year’s TdF. They and a at least a couple of other top level pro are still using rim brakes this year.

[jemdet]

Originally Posted by justaute

Are you sure it's not butter pains?

Maybe during the off-season

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by Matt92037

That is how I run my current Dura Ace. I have really grown to like Syncroshift. The left shifter I have setup to switch screens on my Garmin.

Man, I’m way behind the times.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by pjbaz

Curmudgeon response: IF they dump rim brake on 12 speed groups 11 speed will basically be where my new purchases end; I'll stock up like a fool and be content until I die, probably.

Sick of spending a LOT of money for new "standards" to be released, repeatedly ...

Carry on, but stay OFF my lawn

I like your thinking. I’m still mostly on 10!

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by batman1425

What team is that?

Ineos......

BTW-I'm on '12s' on my Moots..2 in the front, 6 in the rear=12

BTW-gotta mention 12s and rear hubs..shimano(probably) will be a unique 12s only, FHB..doh!

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

BTW-I'm on '12s' on my Moots..2 in the front, 6 in the rear=12

Haha, nice!

[JohnnyBoston]

Originally Posted by PacNW2Ford

If the cassettes start with a 10T cog, they’re probably MicroSpline as I don’t think a 10T will fit on the present freehub body. Why we need a 10T is a different question.

I have no interest in a 10t cog. I hope Shimano doesn't make it just to match SRAM.

I don't need a scientific friction test to feel the drive train losses of tiny gears like that.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBoston

I have no interest in a 10t cog. I hope Shimano doesn't make it just to match SRAM.

I don't need a scientific friction test to feel the drive train losses of tiny gears like that.

Some are making 9th cogs.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Some are making 9th cogs.

And they’re kind of stupid. Not trying to be a retrogrouch but 10-tooth cogs don’t even make sense for pros, except with small chain rings.

If they have them, I still hope to see an 11-tooth option.

These smaller components seem to be made to shave a few grams for marketing purposes.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Some are making 9th cogs.

That's mostly found in bikes with very small wheels (such as folding bikes) where the alternative is very large chainrings. Small wheels open up a lot of possibilities for frame design but can result in a lot compromises in the drivetrain.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

That's mostly found in bikes with very small wheels (such as folding bikes) where the alternative is very large chainrings. Small wheels open up a lot of possibilities for frame design but can result in a lot compromises in the drivetrain.

I've seen 9th cassettes for big bikes too. I know of a couple groups in the works with a 9 as the main for their cassettes.

[robertbb]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

I've seen 9th cassettes for big bikes too. I know of a couple groups in the works with a 9 as the main for their cassettes.

Oh boy I hope this doesn't include the new Campy group(s). I fear it does.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by robertbb

Oh boy I hope this doesn't include the new Campy group(s). I fear it does.

No comment. But I can say the range on upcoming cassettes is incredible. In my opinion it's a game changer and is a first for all the brands. I have a bunch of new things on the way from everyone- Shimano, Campy, SRAM. Campy has things dropping every month for the next 3 months. Shimano has stuff dropping end of August to mid-September. SRAM hasn't given me the dates. But everyone was rearranging them to coincide with Sea Otter and NAHBS. But since those aren't happening now things could change. I do know the Campy stuff isn't supposed to though.

[thirdgenbird]

Range means gaps which may be alright if that chainring deal is true.



Now I need to know about bottom bracket and brake options.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

Range means gaps which may be alright if that chainring deal is true.



Now I need to know about bottom bracket and brake options.

The bottom bracket options from one company, I posted before. They are offering pretty much everything including T47.

Brakes? is there something other than disc and rim brakes being used most?